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Collin County Commissioner Quits Boy Scouts Over New Policy Accepting Gay Scouts

Chris Hill is a Collin County commissioner, and a Republican. Until today he was also chairman of the Lone Star District of Dallas’ Circle Ten Council of the Boy Scouts of America. After yesterday’s vote to allow gay Scouts membership in the organization, Hill has resigned from that post. He issued this statement, according to the DMN:

It was with great disappointment that I received the news today that the national council of the Boy Scouts of America voted to change the membership standards that have guided the organization for over a century. It was my sincere hope that the executive leaders of the BSA would heed the call and the prayers of the scouting family throughout the country, the great majority of whom spoke with clarity and resolve in their opposition to the change. I am grieved and dismayed that the BSA has abandoned the 103-year legacy of its founder to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices.

BSA has its roots in the international Scouting movement, which was founded in Britain by Robert Baden-Powell in 1907. In 1989, biographer Tim Jeal wrote of Baden-Powell’s extremely close friendship with a fellow army officer: “Available evidence points inexorably to the conclusion that Baden-Powell was a repressed homosexual.”

Last year, on the opinion pages of the New York Times, Brooke Allen wrote that this possibility (which has been disputed, since there is no evidence that Baden-Powell’s relationship with this friend was ever physical), shouldn’t necessarily weigh on BSA’s decision regarding the inclusion of homosexuals:

Were Baden-Powell himself to be consulted on the subject, he would no doubt be horrified by any mention of open homosexuality in the Scouting movement. His mother’s training had taught him that sex was dirty, and this was an opinion he did his best to impart to the boys — and girls — who took up scouting. (“A Scout is clean in thought, word, and deed,” after all.)

Still, Baden-Powell’s life is a poignant story that should be known. This man who gave so much to so many suffered from the forces of repression and taboo. It is unfortunate that the American branch of the movement he founded should perpetuate them.

With Hill’s departure, there’s one less member of the organization to carry on that tradition.

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  • Bobtex

    When Lyndon Johnson pushed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 through Congress, he was told, and he agreed, that Democrats in the segregated South would abandon the Democratic Party in droves, reducing the party to a shadow of its former dominance in the South for at least the next generation. When he signed the Act into law, that indeed happened. But ending discrimination was the right thing to do, and the country has moved on.

    By ending membership discrimination in the Boy Scouts, the national organization may very well witness the exodus of those who refuse to embrace equality. But, as in the example of segregation, eliminating this type of discrimination is the right thing to do, and time will prove this to be true. And all of those who would cling to unfairness as the best policy for the Boy Scouts will in time be forgotten, or at least regretted. The arc of history still does bend toward justice.

  • fij

    Are there any elected officials in Collin County that don’t suck?

  • Mavdog

    If Mr. Hill wishes to not associate himself with BSA due to BSA deciding not to discriminate, to be inclusive in its membership, it is Mr. Hill who is showing poor judgement and his failure to make a correct “ethical and moral choice”.

  • DeoPatria

    This isn’t about “discrimination” as though sexual orientation is a “mere alternative lifestyle”. Adult sexuality and its expression is not the proper subject for the Boy Scouts. This entire discussion is dishonest. IF there’s “no difference” between a gay boy and a hetersexually-identified boy AND if sexual expression is prohibited within Scouting, there would be no reason for any change, official or otherwise. This is about a political agenda, and those who have forced it – and with this change, they have gutted the SCOTUS decision which will lead to those who keep to God and “moral straightness” to leave, and those who wish to exploit the BSA for their ends. The time will come when Scouts are told that the terms “mother” and “father” are discriminatory. This is an event that HARVEY MILK **promised** was IMPOSSIBLE during the Proposition 6 debates – and yet, here we are. When people LIE about their agenda and history, refuse to have honest discussions about it, and force it upon CHILDREN, it is a national disgrace.

  • Harvey Lacey

    Mr. Hill made this about the next election when he made his position a public discussion. Let the ballot box decide. I’m sure there are fiscally conservatives out there who are willing to step up and replace him.

  • Monte Malone

    irony alert

  • Dubious Brother

    LBJ fought against the Civil Rights Act when he was in the Senate and the Republicans were trying to get it passed. It was the Republican party that kept the pressure on to get it passed. Somehow, LBJ and the Democrats highjacked the credit and as LBJ correctly predicted – “We’ll have every niqqer in the country voting Democrat for the next 200 years.” And ever since, there is no more discrimination in this county against Blacks.

  • Pegaso

    You can pretend that boys 13-18 are completely asexual, but that doesn’t make it true.

  • tested

    The Boy Scouts of America is a private organization and free to include or exclude anyone it wants. The people involved are free to come and go as they choose based on the decisions this organization makes. Mr. Harris is doing what he thinks is best based on his personal beliefs. Others will stay in scouting hoping to push back against this move.

    In all of this uproar I have yet to see what the rank-and-file scouts actually think. Both sides seem to be pushing the notion that their side is the popular one, but I don’t think we’ve EVER gotten a real honest assessment of where the scouts themselves stand on this topic.

    There really could be an interesting poll done of scouts. How many support allowing openly gay scouts? Scout leaders? How many are gay but haven’t come out yet? What do they think about other important issues such as pre-marital sex, abortion, etc. It might say a lot about what scouting is teaching these kids.

  • C T

    Do these adults not hear what they are saying? “Grown men” who are supposedly leaders in the community are upset because a 15 year old teenager will now be allowed to continue his time in the Scouts. The boy was accepted with open arms when he was 11-14 years old as a Cub Scout and a Webelos. But now that he has realized his sexual orientation and had the guts to come out, these grown men no longer want him around. A gay teenager doesn’t just wake up and decide he wants to be a Boy Scout. He’s been in the Scouts for several years before coming out.

    News alert: that same 15 year old teenager is in the boy’s locker room at the local high school, hangs out with the neighborhood kids, and is your son’s best friend. He’s not going to “turn your son gay” or hit on him.

  • Normal

    I support Chris Hill. Remember it’s a choice to be gay. This world is turning disgusting with this gay crap!

  • Normal

    This world is disgusting, being gay is a choice just like smoking crack is a choice.
    I support Chris Hill. I’m glad the Royal Rangers are standing their ground and not allowing that crap. I hope the Boy Scouts fold!

  • Anonymous

    New Proof clearly shows that Jeal was CLEARLY WRONG about Robert Baden-Powell. He was not a repressed homosexual and the logic behind Jeal’s conclusions are n0ow 100% vetted as wrong.

    This leader is clearly wrong, and doesn’t believe in the Scout Oath nor Law as BP wrote the 4th Law.

    This leader is putting forth his own agenda ahead of the Scout Oath and Law.
    Baden Powell’s exact words;see the last line.

    4. A Scout is a friend to all, and a brother to every other scout,
    no matter to what social class the other belongs. Thus if a scout meets another
    scout, even though a stranger to him, he must speak to him, and help him in any
    way that he can, either to carry out the duty he is then doing, or by giving
    him food, or, as far as possible, anything that he may be in want of. A scout
    must never be a SNOB. A snob is one who looks down upon another because he is
    poorer, or who is poor and resents another because he is rich.

    “A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him.”

    BP meant it- in every sense of the words; he was totally agnostic to sexual orientation.Period.

    After reading and studying this man for over 15 years, with more access to his archives, writings, documents, than any other person in the world, Baden- Powell did not judge a man for what God made him; rather how he acted.

  • Anonymous

    This Scouter is clearly placing his own personal agenda ahead of the Scout Law and Oath.
    He has used his personal political agenda as the basis for his decision;not the Scout Oath and Law.

    Baden Powell’s exact words; (see the last line).

    4. A Scout is a friend to all, and a brother to every other scout,
    no matter to what social class the other belongs. Thus if a scout meets another
    scout, even though a stranger to him, he must speak to him, and help him in any
    way that he can, either to carry out the duty he is then doing, or by giving
    him food, or, as far as possible, anything that he may be in want of. A scout
    must never be a SNOB. A snob is one who looks down upon another because he is
    poorer, or who is poor and resents another because he is rich. A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him…

    “A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him.”

    BP meant it- in every sense of the words; he was totally agnostic to sexual orientation.Period.

    After reading and studying this BP for over 15 years, with more access to his archives, writings, documents, than any other person in the world, Baden- Powell did not judge a man for what God made him; rather how he acted.

    BTW- JEAL was TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT being a repressed homosexual; he was not. There is plenty of academic archival proof to repeal all of Tim Jeal’s claims, which were based on 100% supposition, not fact.
    Extensive knowledge and irrefutable proof that Robert Baden Powell was hetrosexual all of his life repels Jeals’ ill-fated efforts to generate interest in his original works.

  • Anonymous

    This Scouter is clearly placing his own personal agenda ahead of the Scout Law and Oath.
    He has used his personal political agenda as the basis for his decision;not the Scout Oath and Law.

    Baden Powell’s exact words; (see the last line).

    4. A Scout is a friend to all, and a brother to every other scout,
    no matter to what social class the other belongs. Thus if a scout meets another
    scout, even though a stranger to him, he must speak to him, and help him in any
    way that he can, either to carry out the duty he is then doing, or by giving
    him food, or, as far as possible, anything that he may be in want of. A scout
    must never be a SNOB. A snob is one who looks down upon another because he is
    poorer, or who is poor and resents another because he is rich. A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him…

    “A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him.”

    BP meant it- in every sense of the words; he was totally agnostic to sexual orientation.Period.

    After reading and studying this BP for over 15 years, with more access to his archives, writings, documents, than any other person in the world, Baden- Powell did not judge a man for what God made him; rather how he acted.

    BTW- JEAL was TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT being a repressed homosexual; he was not. There is plenty of academic archival proof to repeal all of Tim Jeal’s claims, which were based on 100% supposition, not fact.
    Extensive knowledge and irrefutable proof that Robert Baden Powell was hetrosexual all of his life repels Jeals’ ill-fated efforts to generate interest in his original works.

  • Anonymous

    This Scouter is clearly placing his own personal agenda ahead of the Scout Law and Oath.
    He has used his personal political agenda as the basis for his decision;not the Scout Oath and Law.

    Baden Powell’s exact words; (see the last line).

    4. A Scout is a friend to all, and a brother to every other scout,
    no matter to what social class the other belongs. Thus if a scout meets another
    scout, even though a stranger to him, he must speak to him, and help him in any
    way that he can, either to carry out the duty he is then doing, or by giving
    him food, or, as far as possible, anything that he may be in want of. A scout
    must never be a SNOB. A snob is one who looks down upon another because he is
    poorer, or who is poor and resents another because he is rich. A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him…

    “A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him.”

    BP meant it- in every sense of the words; he was totally agnostic to sexual orientation.Period.

    After reading and studying this BP for over 15 years, with more access to his archives, writings, documents, than any other person in the world, Baden- Powell did not judge a man for what God made him; rather how he acted.

    BTW- JEAL was TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT being a repressed homosexual; he was not. There is plenty of academic archival proof to repeal all of Tim Jeal’s claims, which were based on 100% supposition, not fact.
    Extensive knowledge and irrefutable proof that Robert Baden Powell was hetrosexual all of his life repels Jeals’ ill-fated efforts to generate interest in his original works.

  • Anonymous

    This Scouter is clearly placing his own personal agenda ahead of the Scout Law and Oath.
    He has used his personal political agenda as the basis for his decision;not the Scout Oath and Law.

    Baden Powell’s exact words; (see the last line).

    4. A Scout is a friend to all, and a brother to every other scout,
    no matter to what social class the other belongs. Thus if a scout meets another
    scout, even though a stranger to him, he must speak to him, and help him in any
    way that he can, either to carry out the duty he is then doing, or by giving
    him food, or, as far as possible, anything that he may be in want of. A scout
    must never be a SNOB. A snob is one who looks down upon another because he is
    poorer, or who is poor and resents another because he is rich. A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him…

    “A scout accepts the other man as he finds him, and makes the best of him.”

    BP meant it- in every sense of the words; he was totally agnostic to sexual orientation.Period.

    After reading and studying this BP for over 15 years, with more access to his archives, writings, documents, than any other person in the world, Baden- Powell did not judge a man for what God made him; rather how he acted.

    BTW- JEAL was TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT being a repressed homosexual; he was not. There is plenty of academic archival proof to repeal all of Tim Jeal’s claims, which were based on 100% supposition, not fact.
    Extensive knowledge and irrefutable proof that Robert Baden Powell was hetrosexual all of his life repels Jeals’ ill-fated efforts to generate interest in his original works.