In late January, Glenn put up a post on this blog about Craig James’ claim that the Mike Leach firing at Texas Tech wouldn’t hurt his designs on Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison’s seat. James said, “I feel very confident about our position. Most people in Lubbock support my position. We did what any responsible parent would do. We did the right thing.”
Except not so much. The D.C.-based public opinion research firm Lincoln Park Strategies has conducted a poll of our friends in West Texas, and James doesn’t fare so well. For the poll, 401 likely general election 2012 voters in the West Texas metro regions of Lubbock, Odessa-Midland, and Amarillo were surveyed March 2 and 3. The findings:
Our early poll indicates that James would have quite a difficult path to victory in West Texas, as 62 percent of survey respondents have either never heard of him or do not know him well enough to form an opinion. Furthermore, only 8 percent hold a positive opinion of him, while 30 percent maintain an unfavorable view. These high unfavorable ratings this early in the contest will have a James campaign starting in the unenviable position of having to work to get his positive name identification up 22 points, just to break even with his detractors.
While the entire region is not overly friendly territory for Craig James, he has an especially acute problem the Lubbock area. Indeed, 52 percent of voters have an unfavorable opinion of James including 35 percent who are very unfavorable. Furthermore, 71 percent of voters in Lubbock with an opinion on the matter say Coach Leach did not deserve to be fired; which includes 29 percent of voters who put the blame squarely on James’ shoulders for using his influence at ESPN to have Leach fired.
In sum, these findings suggest that voters care about the Texas Tech issue and will weigh the situation as they consider supporting Craig James for Senate in 2012.
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Based on the not-so-nice reception he received from callers today while on the Mark Davis show on WBAP, appears Craig James is not too popular in the Dallas-Fort Worth area either.
If Craig James is smart (and I’m not granting that premise), he’ll forget about West Texas, and focus on getting votes elsewhere in the state.
No chance in hell West Texas will warm up to him for Senate any time soon.
Jean, don’t forget there are a lot of Red Raiders throughout all of Texas. For that matter, there are a lot of people who value honesty and integrity that will not be voting for him based on what happened in West Texas.
Yes, but the not-so-nice reception he received on WBAP was organized ahead of time by a small facebook group called “Team Leach” which was organized the the coach’s PR company in Dallas.
So, the reception was not as much public opinion as it was an organized group of people trying to make an impression.
If you look at the Texas Tech group message boards, this “Team Leach” group is extremely unfavorable, even for those that opposed Leach’s firing. Apparently Team Leach is not made up of Texas Tech graduates, but local Lubbock people do view Tech in the same light as a professional sports franchise.
Have to wonder about a man who uses his workplace to air his dirty laundry, i.e. Son Adam’s problems with Tech on ESPN.
Makes you wonder what would happen if elected, if the cook got his order wrong at the burger place drive through?
A full blown Senate investigation?
I can hear it now, “Mr. Senator I purposely did not leave the cheese off Mr. James burger.”
Craig James did Texas Tech a huge favor. Mike Leach should have been fired years ago because of his sloppy and unprofessional behavior.
@Kim. Leach doesn’t have a Dallas PR firm. Craig James is the one who hired a Dallas PR firm before even calling to complain to Tech Chairman of the Board Larry Anders about Leach… and threatened to go public with his accusations if Tech didn’t do anything about Leach. Team Leach is a group that started a scholarship for Tech and will help a student to go Tech this coming fall.
Craig James did the right thing — that coach was a jerk (full disclosure — I’m a junior college dropout)… It didn’t cost taxpayers any money to get rid of the big bully — Tech was already going to spend money on its football program. Besides, philosophically (though not exactly) protecting your young ones is exactly what Eddie Bernice Johnson did by making sure her grandkids had a college ride. So, obviously, this is a bipartisan issue. But, like I said, I’m just a junior college dropout.
I could care less about Texas Tech (i.e., I neither went to TT nor to UT or A&M), but I am a huge college football fan. And I wouldn’t vote for Craig James if he was running against Zombie Lenin.
@What???:
Yes, there is a Dallas PR firm. And the head of that is a regular poster on the Team Leach facebook page, regularly letting their posters know how to act and what/what not to post on message board forums. According the the Lubbock paper, that PR firm started Team Leach and organized efforts on it’s behalf. The Team Leach term was created before Leach’s firing, when he was in heated contract discussions with the university.
This blog is about Craig James, but since you can’t stop slandering Leach here we go.
The function of a football coach is to:
1. Graduate players
2. Win football games
3. Bring in revenue for the school
4. Entertain the students/fans
On all four of those counts, Mike Leach was an incredible success. The year before Mike Leach arrived at Tech, attendance dropped from 25k to 24k.It now sits at around 30k despite a lackluster season by your boy Tuberville.
@PublicNewsSense: All you spew is hate and produce no facts.
Enjoy that BBQ the Admin is paying you with for writing in and spreading slander
Johnson, what hate? I was justifying everything. People do what they can to help their offspring and grandchildren. That’s just love. Besides, do you remember what Leach said about the players and their “fat little girlfriends?” Where’s the love in that/
Johnson, I think you’re aptly named.
I haven’t seen anyone slandering Leach on here. But I do think that people who have a degree from Texas Tech are the ones who really are stakeholders in the Leach/Texas Tech story as opposed to local non-graduates whose only interest in Tech is the football team.
There are bigger issues that winning football games, and in business sometimes winning takes a backseat to other issues. Insubordination is something that wouldn’t be tolerated at Texas or Oklahoma, and Texas Tech shouldn’t put up with it either. Kudos to Tech for not looking the other way simply because the football coach had a winning record.
@Johnson:
I’m not sure where you got your attendance information. Tech broke their all-time attendance record last year in the first year with Coach Tuberville.
@Kim,
Consider the source of your “information”. The Lubbock AJ Editor, is a former top staffer of Kent Hance.
Team Leach was started by Alumni who thought Leach got a raw deal.
Team Leach approached the PR firm (run by a Tech Grad)
Team Leach was NOT organized by Leach or the PR Firm.
Team Leach currently does not retain the PR firm and has raised over 50-thousand dollars for scholarships.
And, about the “organzing” on FB for todays call, go to the Pro Tech websites, and blogs and you will see those guys are far more organized (which some say by Tech) and militant than any of the Leachers.
Kim, get over it, and go punch a pillow, you are wrong on all accounts.
Let’s not forget that he helped bring down SMU’s football program long before he set his sights on Texas Tech. I don’t see him getting too far versus the serious candidates who are now lining up.
“The function of a football coach is to: 1. Graduate players”
You’re not from around here are you?
I think Craig James will make a excellent US Senator. As a collegiate he was the best player money could buy. I’m confident that as a Senator he (like John Cornyn R-Tobacco, and Pete (”I love you Sanford”) Sessions R-Chicken Ranch) will be the best Senator corporate money can buy. A proud GOP tradition.
@Kim. The Lubbock paper is wrong. Team Leach was already going when the PR guy showed up. He was paid for only one month. From what I understand, after he helped put on the January 2010 rally he stayed and helped for a while because he didn’t like what was going on at Texas Tech. He’s a grad from the place. And I’m setting the record straight. Personally, I don’t like the SOB.
I’m on board with the people saying “Team Leach” is a terrible representation of Texas Tech. As a whole, that group is made up of people who don’t have college degrees from Tech or anywhere else, and were brought together by a hired hand being paid to try and make Mike Leach look like less of a jerk than he already does. One look at their facebook page makes it clear that they have one allegience, and that’s Mike Leach.
I can handle true Red Raiders and Tech grads voicing their displeasure, but it rubs me the wrong way when a group of uneducated hired hands tries to make themselves out at Tech graduates representing the true fans of the school.
I hated to see Mike go under the circumstances, but don’t fault Craig James one bit for looking after his son’s best interests. And Team Leach, quit acting like you’re actual representatives of Tech when you have absolutely no ties to the school other than being the fired coach’s mouthpiece.
Craig James may have his issues, but his support of his son at Tech is not something he should be vilified for. If Mike Leach had a losing record, none of this “Team Leach” silliness would even be happening, so any of them saying they care about the real issues here are hypocritical. They are simply “tshirt” Tech fans who care about Tech as a football entity, not as a graduate of Texas Tech.
The “Team Leach” people commenting on this blog are the perfect example of a PR firm spinning it’s story. First, they put a post on their website saying Craig James is going to be on WBAP and asking their followers to call in and give him a hard time. Then, they post a link to this blog asking their followers to show up and make posts acting as though they are Tech graduates (they aren’t). Then, they even come on here and make posts saying game attendance is down without Leach (it’s not — last year set a record for attendance), and that their organization isn’t run by a PR Firm when Charlie Hodges of Hodges PR Firm in Dallas organized them.
For the record:
- “Team Leach” members are NOT Tech graduates
- They DON’T represent those of us who are
- They WERE organized and are counseled by Leach’s PR Firm (it’s been in the Lubbock Avelanche Journal several times)
- They have NO ties to Texas Tech, only to a football coach who is mad because he was fired
My personal opinion of Mike Leach is that he was an egotistical man who was impossible to have as an employee, and when he thought he was big enough to tell his Boss where to go he found out he isn’t indespensible. As for Craig James, there are a number of reasons I don’t think he’s qualified to be senator but none of those reasons are because he stood up for his son.
Craig James is not responsible for Leach telling his employers where to go. Leach only has himself to blame for getting fired.
From the Facebook Team Leach site posted last night:
Becky Veazey Ŧimmons REMINDER: Craig James will be on WBAP at 9 a.m. We need to start calling in at about 8:40 a.m. to tie up the phone lines.
Craig James is a complete tool!!! He’s ruined 2 football programs!
craig james is damaged goods. He has two chances, Slim and none and slim just caught the bus.
Robert,
Sorry, but your opinion is just that and not the norm. A huge majority of Texas Tech fans do fault Craig James. Not every dad would act the way he did “looking out for the best interests of his son.”
The depositions prove that he called the coaching staff repeatedly complaining that his son was not getting enough playing time, even suggesting in a voicemail message that one of the coaches didn’t have the “bxlls” to call him back.
The closet incident has been proven to be a fabrication by Craig and his son. Both were just spoiled rich boys who were used to getting their way. Pathetic.
You people and you bigotry against non Tech grads confuse me. Tech is a STATE supported school. Anyone that pays taxes in the state of Texas financially supports Tech. But even with that, it’s still a free country and anyone is entitled to their opinion. Oh but wait…….I wonder if the pollsters only polled Tech graduates???? You have got to be kidding me.
@Kim – The insubordination that brought about the whole incident and thus Leach’s firing was Adam James’ insubordination. Where are the kudos to Tech’s football coaches for refusing to tolerate it?
I don’t really have an opinion on “Team Leach” and whether non-alumni should have a voice here, but it’s rather amusing, considering the state is chock full of T-shirt Longhorn fans. I guess they should be seen and not heard as well in matters concerning UT?
It doesn’t matter whether Mike Leach or Craig James hired a Dallas PR firm, or if any of the callers to Mark Davis’ very ill-advised segment this morning were plants. None of that changes the fact that despite whatever faults Leach may have as a coach or a person, Craig James is an oily scumbag and a whiny bully who is hated in Dallas as much as he is in Lubbock.
Plus, there’s this piece of old business that never really got resolved.
In a way, I hope he goes for it. Run, Craig, run. And please self-finance your campaign. When you come in second to last place in the Republican primary between some 89 year old write-in candidate and a Libertarian-Scientologist cat hoarder, then maybe you’ll finally get it.
Kim @ 4:56pm …. go to KCBD channel 11’s home page – 92% AGAINST Craig James!
Go to facebook.com KCBDnewschannel11/post – 2for – 100 against!
As far as your Lubbock paper article about a paid TL PR firm: LINK it, or Title, author, and date …. cause it didn’t happen!
However, Spaeth’s insurance carrier has notified Marie Spaeth that they will not be covering her firm in the Coach Leach slander lawsuit againt her.
Remember, she’s the one (Swift Boat for Vets…political PR firm) that produced Nancy James’ closet video on youtube?!?
Oh, also, ever read DTN … well, do. Their FanShots have comments 100% against Nancy and Craig James; and none appreciated Pettit’s Lubbockonline article either!
Read a few sworn court depositions (like Nancy’s and Craig’s)… a couple e-mails(like Hance and Regents conspiring to fire Coach Leach) … how about the Tech Employee policy? Then you’ll ~~ know what most of us already know!
Well, it looks like the Team Leach Underground (their “top secret” facebook site) now has instructed it’s members to come post more drivel on this blog.
Sorry olemydarlin if I struck a nerve with you. But the bottom line is that if you can’t even get a college degree then you probably aren’t the type of person who should be judging personnel decisions. When you’re only exposure to college is a football team, then you definitely aren’t exactly a Rhode Scholar.
I invested alot of time and money getting my degree from Tech, and I don’t really care for uneducated goons to be telling the university who it should be hiring and firing. Maybe your PR leader should go find some actual college graduates to further his cause, then maybe there might be a slightly higher degree of credibility.
Thank you Robert, I totally agree. Team Leach is a bunch of t-shirt non-graduates, not Red Raiders.
I loved going to school in Lubbock, but honestly most of the local Lubbock citizens are backwoods people who don’t have much more culture than visiting the local Sizzler restaurant. Do they even know what public opinion is outside of Lubbock? Do they even know what going to college and graduating is like? Most of them don’t, yet they think they own the university much like Dallas residents think they own the Cowboys. Low class, uneducated hillbillies have no business interfering with who Tech hires and fires unless they are actually donating money to the university. Watching football in your trailer doesn’t make you a stakeholder in Texas Tech.
Most of the population of Lubbock is uncultured and uneducated, and it’s too bad that Texas Tech has to be located there.
James’ negative numbers are probably understated in Lubbock, because it polled likely voters. I think unlikely voters in Lubbock would turn out to vote against him. He would finally get out the college vote.
I wouldn’t vote for him even without the Leach stuff because he has never done anything but run a ball or talk about running a ball. We already have one jackwagon Texan in DC who holds hearings about the BCS because it is easier than talking about defecits.
p.s. – people in Lubbock may be low class they may be uneducated (Tech Graduate’s opinion not mine) but they are most certainly not “hillbillies”
Hey Tech Graduate,
Shall we run a poll on FB’s Team Leach page to show how many people ARE Tech Ggrads and blow out your following statement:
“For the record:
- “Team Leach” members are NOT Tech graduates
- They DON’T represent those of us who are
- They WERE organized and are counseled by Leach’s PR Firm (it’s been in the Lubbock Avelanche Journal several times)
- They have NO ties to Texas Tech, only to a football coach who is mad because he was fired.”
How can you bash an organization that has raised 50-thousand dollars for Tech Scholarships?
(which Tech won’t recognize, thus not allowing a needy student tuition and books.)
What have you and the other trolls done besies big mouth around the general store and slander Leach?
Again:
Hodges PR came along well AFTER Team Leach had 50,000 + members.
Hodges PR is owned by a TECH Grad.
And if PR firms are so evil, why not bash James for hiring Spaeth and Bash Tech for using it’s “News and Publications Dept” to put out spin?
Hmm?
How bout you get the facts first BEFORE you post?
Fat Drunk is stupid is no way to go through life son.
and I was typing from my blackberry so try not to have field day with my lack of editing above. Get a life “Tech Grad”.
Kim wrote:
“I’m not sure where you got your attendance information. Tech broke their all-time attendance record last year in the first year with Coach Tuberville.”
The real story on that my Dear is Tech claimed to have broken all attendance records based on a fictitious figure that Tech can’t verify now, was reported by ESPN and now Tech says the ESPN field reporter basically “made up the number”.
(All of this came to light after a Freedom of Information request asking for proof of those numbers)
Tech also based it’s statement of an “all time attendance high” this past season on Ticket sales alone.
How many corporations, bought tickets half price from Tech and passed them out to folks on the corner like one big soft drink company did? Hmm?
The ESPN camera crews and Fox Sports SW guys were told by the Tech Athletic Dept not to show the empty stands at every game and at the lackluster bowl game in 2010.
So my figures stand, based on the last year Leach was running things.
Now Kim, where do you get your information?
A Newspaper whose Editor ran PR for Hance?
Bring it to the table, let’s go.
and @publicnewssense, slander is slander no matter how you “justify” it.
@Tech Graduate: “Most of the population of Lubbock is uncultured and uneducated”
As opposed to the drunken brats from suburban Dallas, west Texas and eastern New Mexico who attend college there? If you’re turning up your nose at Lubbock townies, you are really scraping the bottom of the snobbery barrel.
You guys are killing me here! Team Leach is here and not going anywhere until Mike Leach has received justice and has his name cleared. We are made up of many Tech graduates along with non-graduates, Tech employees, middle school and high school students, teachers, doctors, lawyers, business owners, parents of Tech students, and a pretty good cross-section of the population. We have members from Lubbock to Washington State to New Jersey to military personnel stationed overseas. We are NOT run by a PR firm and were NOT started by a PR firm. We do have over $50,000, raised from private donations and by sale our our “Fat Little Girlfriends Cookbook” which is a collaboration and was contributed to by many of our members. I would put it out there that those who keep spouting the untruths are paid shills of Spaeth Communications, Texas Tech, and Craig James. I don’t know why else they would care what we are doing. We are trying to do something positive for Texas Tech, meanwhile keeping Mike Leach’s name alive there. We plan to award our first scholarship next fall. Love us or hate us, but please don’t believe the lies that you see above. And if you would like to buy a cookbook, go to http://www.teamleach.org/cookbook.html
Correction: http://teamleach.org/book.html
Actually I think Kim is the one working for the PR firm. CJ at his best, yet again. I’m really laughing at her answers. If they really were a good PR firm they would have done some research on what Team Leach really is all about. I even had to laugh at Tech Graduate who obviously knows nothing about the area he attended school at – uncultured and uneducated – what does that make him. LOL Some people really are a joke – and it’s not Lubbock nor is it Team Leach.
Robert Conner (aka Craig James) and Tech Grad (aka Adam James) should take their ignorance elsewhere!
Tech GRADUATE: Our money goes to the Mike Leach Scholarship Fund … the “Fat Little Girlfriends Cookbook”… Keri (our honorary Pirate) … assorted stickers and t-shirts, etc.
We and our oldest Tech Grad will NOT give another dime to Tech, until Coach Leach gets his justice, Tech restores it’s Honor, and corruption is no longer tolerated there.
Did you know Tech is now calling currently enrolled students parents for money? Yep, we have one left there.
About Lubbock ~~ “Lubbock” by Russell Hill was just released for sale by Arcadia Publishing. Educate yourself … you just may fall in love with the place and it’s people, as well!
Long time reader, first time commenter…I not from Lubbock but went to school there (and graduated). I think it is highly offensive for another graduate of that institution to unneccessarily call it’s citizens “uneducated” and “uncultured” – I am not sure we lived in the same town. This entry is about Craig James who has a laundry list of bad things attached to his name (SMU anyone??) other than the most recent scandal with Mike Leach (which is an embarassment for the university). Have some pride, show some respect and stick up for TTU but also for Lubbock. What’s with all the negativety?
Team Leach ain’t going nowhere. WE KNOW THAT HANCE AND MYERS ACTED LIKE CRIMININALS AND WE WILL NOT BACK DOWN EVER!!
And don’t tell me that JUST BECAUSE I DON”T HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE I”M WORTHLESS AND CAN’T SPEAK MY MIND. I have just as much right to speak my mind as YOU and I’m probably smartier than you college educated SNOBS.
WE WON’T BACK DOWN NOT NOW OR EVER. I hope Tech goes 0-11 next year and they probably will with tubby there and his onside kicks and bad defense and stuped play calling. What a LOOSER.
I DON”T NEED A DEGREE TO SEE THAT THE TRUTH MUST COME OUT!!
I’m buying a cookbook! Thanks!
Hay guys stop lying about you raised 50,000 dollars. 5,000 was left over from your bust rally 30,000 came from one person and my guess it was the drunken pirate himself they may need to give it back he will never work in college football again the big nose hick.
Well my apologies if I struck a nerve with some of you. But most people in the rest of the state (and outside the state too) agree with me that the average Lubbockite is uneducated and uncultured. Where else would you see a bunch of loonies spending 24 hours a day thinking up ways to trash the local university because a coach got fired? I mean really? And these are even people that couldn’t even get degrees from the school. They’re just rednecks that think Tech was built for their sports entertainment.
Having Tech in Lubbock probably brings up the IQ of the city by about 70%. While I really enjoyed my time in Lubbock as a college town, I always thought how sad it would be to have to live there after college. There is a definite mentality and “style” you see from the locals (not Tech transplants, but actual locals). They just aren’t very intelligent and all they know how to do is act like all the big city slickers are out to get them. And I won’t even go into depth on the teeth issues the average lubbockite has.
I have no doubt that the average member of Team Leach thinks an elegant night on the town is a trip to the local ice house and a plate of chicken gizzards.
Tech Graduate,
When comparing the populations of Lubbock and Dallas, as a percentage more people in Lubbock have degrees, unemployment is lower and crime is lower.
PR:
The crime and STD rate is significantly higher in Lubbock. As for education, I would doubt it but don’t have any stats to back it up. One thing I do know is that income level per capita is far lower in Lubbock, and the poverty rate is much higher.
If Lubbock is that educated (which I don’t believe it is, but will have to give you the benefit of the doubt), then the Team Leach group must be in the minority. None of them seem to have college degrees, including that Becky lady who claims to be their leader. From what I’ve seen, she just seems like an angry uneducated lady who sits around at her computer all day. And she admitted on another message board that she doesn’t even have a Tech degree.
Interesting that a Texas magazine doesn’t know it’s Texas geography. Blame it on the legislature. Lubbock is in the Panhandle of Texas not West Texas. They are 2 extremely different geographical areas. Lubbock is on top of the LLano Estacado; flat, no native trees, and they grow LOTS OF COTTON. West Texas is arid, slightly rolling, with shrub brush and the like and is 1000 ft lower in elevation. Maybe you should invest in a topical map. I am one Panhandle person that is tired of being called West Texas. Get it RIGHT D.
Nice.
Tech GRADUATE,
You have serious issues with Lubbock. Most likely you pulled out your big-city-douche-bag-smart-ass-I’m-better-and-smarter-than-you attitude on a local who then introduced you to the “Lubbock way” of handling fools.
Or, maybe one on of them stole your “fat little girlfriend.”
There are some pretty strong opinions on both sides here, and some of you have gotten pretty personal.
The bottom line is that I don’t think anyone posting here knows what really happened. The Team Leach people get their information from Leach and his PR Firm, while the other side gets their information from newspaper reports, contract terms, and depositions.
In my opinion, Leach caused his own downfall and Tech was legally able to fire him for cause given the insubordination clause in the contract. And I do agree that the Team Leach people who didn’t graduate from Tech and are only following their football hero’s PR spinning have no business interfering.
But regardless of which side is right or wrong, I think the most probably scenario in this whole thing is that Leach has ruined his career with all the litigation and bitterness.
Craig James will have other things to fall back on, but Mike Leach is going to go down in the history books as a footnote. Pretty sad that Leach with all his education couldn’t see this.
Kim,
The recent poll would show your view is the minority opinion.
@ThePanhandle: Lubbock is in the South Plains, not in the Panhandle.
@Kim: Sorry to inform you, but the TL folks have read every page of the depositions. I don’t know who you work for, but remember that Spaeth’s slander insurance didn’t cover her for spreading lies about Leach. Please be careful what you say.
@PR: The recent polls show people in Lubbock won’t vote for Craig James. So what? It’s doubtful they’d vote for him if the Leach situation had never occurred.
@What??: Sorry to inform you, but I’ve read every page of the deposition too and I’m an attorney. I also don’t have my opinion influenced by a group of people called Team Leach or the Hodges PR Firm. And I’d also say that Tech knew exactly what it’s legal risks were when the fired Leach, and they didn’t hesitate to do it.
Kim: “The bottom line is that I don’t think anyone posting here knows what really happened. The Team Leach people get their information from Leach and his PR Firm, while the other side gets their information from newspaper reports, contract terms, and depositions.”
If you are really an attorney, you should have some idea of the meaning of RESEARCH. I don’t know where you get your information, but you’re wrong. You do seem like you may be working for Spaeth as this is exactly the same rhetoric that is spewed by a few others. It’s false whether it is contributed by yourself or any one of several of the other haters. I don’t care what you think, but your attempt to discredit Team Leach by continuing to post untruths is, well, just ugly, and it makes you look ignorant to a whole bunch of people who DO know the truth.
Becky,
I’m not sure why you and many of the other Team Leach people keep accusing everyone who fervently disagrees with you as working for Spaeth unless it’s just to counter everyone else’s perception that Team Leach works for Hodges (which would be far more accurate than the blanket Spaeth accusations, especially since their GM is leader on the Facebook website).
I think you are the one who doesn’t understand what research actually is. Research is not reading selected documents provided by Mike Leach’s representatives to support your preconceived and premeditated opinions. Research is actually reading ALL of the documentation available with an open mind and applying them to the law as it pertains to this case.
The key issue in this case is whether Texas Tech was legally within their rights to fire Coach Leach with cause for insubordination. Clearly, they were within their right according to Leach’s contract. All of the other mumbo jumbo minutia about Adam James, Craig James, conspiracies, etc are not pertinent to the actual case. They are simply a smokescreen for public relations. It doesn’t matter if Adam James kicked in 10 doors, beat up his girlfriend, and threw rocks at Coach Leach insofar as Leach’s termination. Yes, if all those things were true it would prove James has serious character issues, but it wouldn’t mean a thing as to Mike Leach’s actions that got him fired.
Your definition of research is not the same as my definition. My definition includes hours of reading EVERYTHING pertinent to the case to determine what is relevant to the legal issues. Your definition seems to mean reading what Hodges and Liggett pass out as propaganda.
I think this is the most attention Tim Roger’s articles will ever receive!!!!
OHHHH so whoever is reviewing these comments obviously does not like Tim Rogers….that is one of the only comments of mine that you have allowed through!
Kim-go educate yourself before you start telling dedicated fans what’s right or wrong. You have NO idea who you’re talking to or what you’re talking about!
Kim, you obviously don’t get why MORE THAN 50,000 people all feel the same way about how the administration dumped Leach. You obviously are quite confused about a “Leach PR firm” and throw that out because you believe SOMEONE might believe you. BUT you DON’T understand that “TEAM LEACH” is more than just 20 people who care about how Texas Tech looks in the public eye. There are thousands of Tech fans and football fans all over the US that know what happened was wrong. So keep responding and pushing your case, but you are not changing any of our opinions on the matter.
“True Tech Grad in Dallas”,
There aren’t more than 50,000 poeple that even care. Don’t give me the facebook “likes” because most of those people have nothing to do with Tech, and most of them checked “like” back before Leach was fired. The PR Firm involved with setting Team Leach is responsible for getting those people to check the like button before they even knew what they were liking. That number used to be 60,000 before everyone started unliking that facebook page. Here’s an idea: Start sending update emails to everyone on that “like” list and see how long it takes for that number to dwindle down to about 30.
And yes, I know that this link was posted on the Team Leach Underground invitation-only site with instructions for all 37 of it’s members to come post on this blog and say they are a “tech grad” whether they are or not.
Trust me, you’re not fooling anyone. And you might also want to screen your 37 members because at least one of them is a mole.
Kim—Oh so now you’re saying “Team Leach works for hodges”? Wait a second, where’s my paycheck?!?
I graduated in ‘06 and every single one of my Tech friends are members of the group Team Leach. I guarantee you that they STILL believe that Leach got screwed and want Hance and some of the BOR gone…just because they aren’t active on a facebook wall does not mean they don’t care. I’m never active on that site. I never receive their email updates. I read D-mag and saw this blog that way. Do you hear me, crazy?
Kim- I guarantee you that there are more than 50k people that care a whole lot! Did you even go to Tech? Look around sister. I don’t know a single soul that wasn’t extremely disappointed to see Leach go! Why do you think the whole city was in complete chaos right after the firing? Leach is one of the best things that ever happened to Tech. He was the most successful coach in the history of Tech Football! I think Kim needs to research some of the relationships he had with some of the members of the board of regents. Leach was fired unfairly because he clashed with the egotistic big dogs. They were not happy that he asked for a well-deserved pay raise and that he was looking around at other schools. Of course he is going to ask for more money and look around for better options…anyone would!! I know I would, especially if i had the chancellor and board of regents working against me and if I just lead a school with a crappy football program that far. Lesson learned: You can’t mess with the big dogs…they have too much power.
Also, Why does Tech get rid of every good thing that comes along? Bob Knight….now Mike Leach! Come on! They both were incredible coaches that made the sport interesting!
Craig James/Adam James- Thanks for ruining Tech football because your son sucked and didn’t get any playing time. I would never vote for you!!! Please run so I can see you go down. Karma!
Well, all I know is I’ve been here from the beginning and Team Leach was started by a Tech student AFTER Mike Leach was suspended. Charlie Hodges didn’t come on board until later in January when we hired him to help with the rally. THAT IS FACT. He was suggested by a member who has now left the group because he got his feelings hurt. His name was Chris. Hodges PR doesn’t run Team Leach. I don’t run Team Leach. It was NEVER printed in the Lubbock paper that Hodges runs Team Leach. He was a spokesman for the group for awhile, but he never ran it. Team Leach is comprised of a whole lot of great people, many of whom I have had the pleasure to meet in person. It is true that not all of the people who joined in the beginning are still participating. But, there are a quite a few people who still feel very strongly and are doing all they can to help make the scholarship a reality. Kim’s a lawyer, so we should believe everything she says? How ’bout NO! Because she doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
I just checked the Underground Lounge and there is no post there about this article. And, there are 77 members, not 37. Two more facts. Sorry, Kim, wrong again.
I checked the lounge also and NO post Kim. Mayber your “mole” is lying to you or your just lying for the sake of propaganda. Most of your posts have sounded that way and have very little truth to them so I’m thinking it’s the latter.
Becky,
You are mistaken. Team Leach was formed during the 2008 contract negotiations that Leach had with Tech after it went public and got ugly. Leach hired the PR Firm in Dallas who formed Team Leach at that time. Team Leach did not start during or after the firing, but almost a year before it.
And Charlie Hodges did come on board at the beginning. There wouldn’t be a Team Leach if he hadn’t kicked it off.
@Tech Graduate: If frogs had wings….
And if he did?…..High five Coach!
No Tech GRADUATE you are lying.
“Sean Taylor created a “Team Leach” group there Monday evening after the initial suspension was announced”
http://lubbockonline.com/stories/123009/upd_541146295.shtml
So Tech Graduate you are a liar. Period.
Show me a single bit of proof about what you claim. Show me a link to an accredited publication that confirms your story. But you won’t, and you can’t, because it is lies. 100% a fabrication trying to attack the group that is raising money for a scholarship. You should be ashamed.
Nice try, but if they are letting kids like you graduate I am ashamed to call your kind a fellow graduate.
Tech Grad School Graduate,
Do you are you venture a guess when the term “Team Leach” was trademarked?
Tech Grad School Graduate,
Do you care to venture a guess as to when the term “Team Leach” was trademarked?
No, Kim it doesn’t seem like tech grad student or anyone else cares so much about the group as you. We all have to get back to our jobs. We’re not being paid to fight for craig James like you are.
Charlie Hodges and his wife are crying on TL page funny as hell. Saying this is hurting his 25 years of hard work, sorry thats what you get when you sleep with fleas Charlie. Mike Leach is a loser he lost his garbage court case and has 25 fools on a facebook pages that worship him like God. TL your a facebook page you have no power no pull and make no difference at TT. If you had any real members why can’t that garbage book coming out and your TL underground site get close to 100 people. What happen to Charlie’s plan to start that failure of a pac group what happen to the money you stole from them 100 people. Like i said 35,000 was not raised gave by one fool. Plus i bet that batman sign fool Bill makes you guys proud just make me sick the pic with the goat.
No proof whatsoever about the claims stated by Kim.
Please enlighten us all. Show proof of the trademark and documentation of it. Site your sources.
Of course you can’t do it because you are completely full of it.
@leach no job fool
Okay let me get this straight.
1. You are attacking people raising a scholarship for students – (Pretty low class)
2. You are attacking the elderly (even more low class)
If you are a representation of what attacking the group is you are truly a sad person, and definitely I don’t think Texas Tech would want to claim you as one of there own.
I’m ashamed for you to be honest. Attacking senior citizens and those who want to raise money so future generations can get a college degree. There are no real words to describe people like you.
TT Grad everything that group says its going to do it dosen’t. The PAC was a failure i bet they didn’t return the money. Showing up to Mike’s court case 3 showed up lol. The money its raised 80 % came from one person. The only thing that group does is cry and make up conspiracy garbage its a fact. They can’t get over Mike was way overated and no school wanted him before Adam or after. They have a real coach now in Tommy. Name one thing that cult has done i doubt the scholaship will ever even be set up its been over a year. They damn sure hasn’t caused one bit of change at TT if you didn’t read it Mike lost EVERY part of his case and still no job.
I would vote for Obama, then leave the country, before I would vote for Craig James. He’s a worthless lying loser.
@leach no job fool
Where is the documentation that 80% came from 1 source of the scholarship.
This is a statistic you made up much like everything else you have said.
“They can’t get over Mike was way overated and no school wanted him before Adam or after.”
Maryland interviewed Mike, Washington, Miami, and even Auburn was interested in Mike Leach after they fired Tommy Tuberville.
That scholarship has over 50,000 dollars raised. Guess you aren’t interested in reaching Tier 1 as scholarships are a requirement.
“Mike lost EVER part of his case”
Total BS as you often have spouted on here
Judge says Mike Leach can move forward
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5240460
“State District Judge William C. Sowder struck down Texas Tech’s claim of sovereign immunity from the breach of conduct claim”
It was only in the Appeal court with a stacked deck of Texas Tech alumni loyal to Hance that overturned the ruling.
It’s going to the Supreme Court and going to be voted on in the legislature.
And even the appeal court said Mike Leach could sue just not for damages.
@ KIm I attended every home Tech game and the stands were not full even with the new additions. So you are full of it. The games are boring and Leach was cheated. So there you go !! have a happy day .
TT grad if things are so great on Team Leach? Why is Becky your leader on TL underground sayings she is about to quit. Plus the goat lover Bill the old man batman has said he is done lol. That means your down to 20 cult members restart that page and you couldn’t get to 100 thats a fact. What the hell do all 8 of you think is so important you have to underground. Quote we need to keep all disscusions here in the lounge are you kidding me. Then all 5 likes button loser’s begging Becks don’t quit lets just sing kumbaya. I think i just threw up i laughed so hard. By the way Mike still has no job aint the world great. ps the real TT fans.
Just a FYI the Lubbock AJ EDITOR, Terry Greenberg, is from California and has never worked for Kent Hance. Try and get your facts straight before posting them please.
I wish Craig James would get a job at SMU and disappear for the rest of eternity…. wait- why didn’t his son go there? grades? football program? (or lack thereof).
Also, now LEACH does have a job as one of the highest paid coached in college football. One of his assistant coaches also coached the WV Mountaineers to a bowl-record 70 point victory over(rated) Auburn.
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