You might call journalist Juan Williams the man in the middle. A correspondent for both the FOX News Channel and National Public Radio, he’s said to be distrusted by some at NPR because of the Fox connection. And he says while he’s seen by black viewers as “the conservative on Fox,” white viewers consider him the network’s liberal. But, “I’m not beholden to any one ideology,” Williams said yesterday during a luncheon Q&A at the Belo Mansion. The problem is that “nobody in Washington ever acknowledges that the other side is right, because they’re all getting paid by people to stay on one side of the fence. So we have a fragmented media world.” The Belo audience was an eclectic bunch–Dallas County District Attorney Craig Watkins, local GOP honcho Jonathan Neerman–and they got their money’s worth from Williams (pictured in this photo by Lisa A. Street). Answering questions posed by John Goodman, president and CEO of the right-leaning National Center for Policy Analysis, the veteran correspondent took on the Obama White House, CNN, teachers unions, and Republicans who dragged their feet in the health care debate. Jump for the highlights.
On the White House’s current “war” on the Fox News Channel, Williams said the Obama administration “is suffering from a bunker mentality. It reminds me of what Nixon tried to do with Katherine Graham and the Washington Post. I think it’s sort of anti-American. There should many voices of opposition … you allow a marketplace of ideas to determine the winner. … Once they shifted [from attacking commentators Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, etc.] to ideological grounds, I think they shifted to a losing hand. I think they’re wrong, and I think they made a terrible calculation.”
On Fox itself: “In terms of the actual reporting, it seems to me that it is quite fair. Fox viewers are 1/3 Democrats, a little more than 1/3 Republican, and the rest are independents. And a little more than 1/4 of Fox’s audience is people of color.”
On whether CNN is “fair and balanced”: “Their position is that they simply give you the news. But what they choose not to cover [is telling]. The most recent examples are the ACORN and the Van Jones stories [which CNN initially downplayed]. But wait a minute, the Democrats in Congress voted to withhold funding from ACORN, then the Census Bureau [weighed in], and the New York Times, CNN had to catch up with news broken by Fox. The question is, do you present all perspectives on the news? That’s where I think CNN falls short.”
On the No. 1 mistake liberals make: “The world is changing fast. There’s a need for innovation,” and “liberals are slow to react. For example, the biggest challenge of our time is education, and the poor quality of education for minorities. How can we have a discussion about equality when there’s such an achievement gap? How are we not talking about the breakdown of the family–70% in the black community? Yet the left is absent on those issues. That pocket of issues requires innovative thinking. You don’t see the left changing with the times.”
On the No. 1 mistake conservatives make: “Republicans feel embattled, and I think it’s been a mistake by some Republicans not to be more engaged in the health care debate. There’s also a changing demographic: more people of color, younger people, and there has to be a Republican approach [to them]. There has to be a clear message sent, and a willingness for the party to engage. That’s crucial if it’s to grow.”
On the Rev. Al Sharpton, Williams said Sharpton offered to organize a “civil rights demonstration” on behalf of one side in a corporate dispute in return for $10,000–a tactic Williams likened to a shakedown. “I think that’s a base activity. And this goes on all the time. But the media says, ‘That’s Al Sharpton, and that’s acceptable.’ ”
More on minorities and education: “Why aren’t more minorities organizing and demanding better schools? Why aren’t parents themselves literally taking to the streets and demanding better education? When educators ask that, the parents say, ‘We have no alternatives.’ They don’t want to ‘put down’ their children and the quality of their schools. … [But another factor is a reluctance ] to take on the unions. They don’t want to do anything that would weaken the teachers’ unions.”
On the black Establishment: Williams lamented the reluctance of the black leadership, especially its churches, to condemn the community’s “terrible out-of-wedlock birth rate, the generations dependent on welfare, the acceptance of drug use. Why don’t they say: ‘This is damaging and a negative phenomenon in our community’? ” He also ripped groups like the NAACP for running political advertisements (specifically, the James Byrd Jr. “dragging-death” ad that branded George W. Bush as a racist in 2000) that he said were based on outright lies.
When Williams’ presentation was finished, we asked D.A. Craig Watkins what he thought of it. The journalist had played a little too much to the mainly conservative crowd, Watkins said. Specifically citing the James Byrd-ad example, Watkins said “the right” is guilty of doing the identical things. As a result, “it wasn’t as balanced a discussion as it could have been,” Watkins said.
From a reader at Talking Points Memo:
I really love the shots they’re taking at Fox.
First, I think it’s a great strategic move. The GOP depends upon their ability to make stuff up and inject it into the political consciousness. Their whole modus operandi is rooted in their ability to distort reality. And they’re able to do that because of talk radio and a couple of other media outlets — Drudge, for example.
I wouldn’t call acknowledging reality (Fox is not in any way journalism) and acting accordingly “war”.
Why wouldn’t the WH fight back against Fox? Fox has organized and promoted partisan political rallies. Fox has posted slides of GOP talking points verbatim, typos included. Fighting back is anti-American? Really?
Question for Mr. Williams: Why didn’t any other news organization call Mr. and Mrs. Obama’s celebratory moment a “Terrorist Fist Jab”?
Keep taking shots at Fox at your own peril….deny tea party movements and outright socialists I’m this admin. You can’t joke, guilt, coerce many of us from seeing what we see. The odd part is many of us are sickened by the GOP also, but you get angry when we believe our eyes when we see the communications director praise Mao. Yes, I question those with Che shirt if they know his deeds…. I am a radical.
You are a grammar/punctuation/vocab radical, that’s for sure.
So, are we socialists or communists? I just need to know so I get the right t-shirt because there is a difference in the ideology.
@ Steve- right on!
What is the old Mark Twain saying, “Never pick a fight with the man who buys his ink by the barrel”.
More people watch Fox News than most other Cable News Channels combined:
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for October 20, 2009
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,323,000 viewers
CNN – 498,000 viewers
MSNBC –369,000 viewers
CNBC – 194,000 viewers
HLN –357,000 viewers
P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,511,000viewers
CNN— 628,000 viewers
MSNBC –861,000 viewers
CNBC – 127,000 viewers
HLN – 658,000 viewers
Source:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/21/cable-news-ratings-for-tuesday-october-20-2009/31160#more-31160
I am shocked to see Juan Williams defend a company that pays his salary.
And what’s this about conservatives not being engaged in the healthcare debate or courting young black voters? Did a death panel expurgate Michael Steele from Juan’s temporal lobes?
Newsflash: Fox is conservative and MSNBC is liberal. I know, shocker right. If fox is not journalism, neither is msnbc or abc or any of the rest of them. Fox has opinion shows the likes of beck and hannity, msnbc has opinion shows the likes of maddow and olberman. To think that any news organization truly sends out views of both sides equally is ridiculous. @Steve, fighting back is not anti-american, it’s just naive to think that it doesn’t happen from both sides or that there needs to be a “fight” in the first place. Educate yourself and take the news with a grain of salt.
The Ombudsman at the Corporation For Public Broadcasting correctly describes Mr. Williams as an embarrasement for his defense of Bill O’Reilly’s baby killer comments on the recently murdered in church doctor in Kansas.
Yeah Juan Williams, Bill O’Reilly guest host and FOX News minority lap dog, NOW that’s a credible source. Juan tell’s any audience what he thinks they want to hear, as long as the check clears.
Just look at this sell-out hack’s record:
Here’s some links to his greats “hits”
Juan “the embarrassment” Williams
http://foxattacks.com/blog/?p=1199
FOX Continues to Attack Black America
Public broadcasting’s ombudsman whacks Juan Williams re: Fox News June 19, 2009
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200906190009
Juan Williams, Michele Obama is “Stokely Charmichael in a dress“:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/27/juan-michelle-stokely/
http://mediamatters.org/research/200901270002
Juan Williams again baselessly attacked Michelle Obama, claiming “her instinct is to start with this ‘blame America’ … stuff”
January 27, 2009
http://mediamatters.org/research/200808250013
Juan Williams says Michelle Obama “sometimes uses” a “kind of militant anger”
August 25, 2008
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200906150041
Juan Williams invokes Civil Rights Movement in defending O’Reilly in Tiller controversy June 15, 2009
Host The O”Reilly Factor, in violation of NPR’s ethic s code
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/juan-williams-tries-be-conservative-and
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200710020005
Juan Williams, Fox News and the NPR conundrum
October 02, 2007
FOX News Happy Negro
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/01/30/source_of_juan_williams_as_happy_negro.php
Juan and Bill O in Harlem
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20979043/
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/09/26/so_a_white_guy_walks_into_a_restaurant_in_harlem.php
O Reilly racist comments
http://mediamatters.org/research/200709210007?f=h_top
Avid reader, which network—Fox or MSNBC—has a three-hour weekday commentary show hosted by a conservative?
The declared war on dissident voices is not aimed so much at FOX, which the WH has declared “not a real news organization” (they should know, being experts) , it’s a little hint to sycophantic “news” organizations that should they stray off the reservation, they can expect to be condemned by the administration.
CNN, of course, reacted by “fact checking” an SNL skit about Obama. Boot, meet lick. Can anyone recall any “news” organization fact-checking SNL’s skits which lampooned conservatives? Bueller?
You’re talking the MSNBC who hands over their airwaves every weekday morning to Joe Scarborough (R-Fla)? The MSNBC with Pat Buchanan on the payroll?
Bill- to counter-
What is popular is not always right, what is right is not always popular.
For the record, right does not mean of the conservative kind.
Who said that FNC is being watched for news-gathering purposes, most watch it becuase of the idiots. I do enjoy a good laugh at Glenn Beck’s expense.
Under these definitions the New York Times isn’t journalism either, nor is Johnny Stuart Leibowitz and his Daily Show (if that even needs to be said). Though, I forgot, he’s not a journalist so he can say whatever he wants.
I would say a Democratic President has a problem when Helen Thomas, who ideologically sits somewhere just left of Hillary, claims you have the most closed administration she has ever seen and likens your control of the media to (worse than) Nixon. But she’s only been working since Kennedy so maybe we should ask someone more experienced.
Keep these priorities up Barry, you’re really ingratiating yourself to the moderates. But you don’t need them right?
BOTTOM LINE- NYT and the like are lining the bottom of a lot less birdcages these days because they no longer have the monopoly of the ink. Progressives will need to find a way to even up FOX killing the other cable networks and talk radio being vastly right….can’t have the market dictate such things.
Chavez will teach them how to curb dissenting voices…BFF’s.
Yes, that MSNBC.
Anything to the left of Sean Hannity is liberal.
@Ryan, if you believe that people only tune into Fox News to mock Glenn Beck, then why is his book currently #2 on the NYT Best Seller list? Is that casual mockers too?
You cannot ignore raw facts.
I think Beck is an idiot, personally. From a media perspective, the WH has just made a huge mistake.
@steve….attack my grammar and punctuation because that is very pertinent. You let Bono be your guide and I will read the founders.
What is MSNBC?
I have the opposite POV. The White House efforts to bring light to the blatant misrepresentation on Fox News are uniquely American – as is the right of a network to broadcast their views.
Neither party – Sure you realize that you are taken more seriously when you can articulate your point with good word choice and correct grammar.
Finding it hard to believe that 1/3 of Fox News viewers are Democrats.
This administration looks like a mix of Chavez, Nixon, Stalin and Elmer Fudd.
Whoops, left out Uncle Karl.
They finally released a whole ten pages (of 44) of O’s thesis from Columbia (transparency!!). Choice excerpt:
“.. the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.”
IOW, the so-called founders left out some key language: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”
But, the dissident views of FOX are the real concern…
Obama’s Seat, you do realize that’s a fake quote, right?
It appears to be satire, we was pwned.
You can rest assured CNN won’t fall for it.