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	<title>Comments on: Angela Hunt v. Wick Allison on the Trinity</title>
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		<title>By: steak-n-ale</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2009/03/24/angela-hunt-v-wick-allison-on-the-trinity/comment-page-2/#comment-66059</link>
		<dc:creator>steak-n-ale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Colus (may I be chummy?)

First, you are an excellent writer. Professional quality. In fact, I&#039;d bet you&#039;d be a hell of a publisher, too.

It&#039;s true I don&#039;t like people who act like aristocracy, but I am very fond of, and very familiar with, finance and commerce, so your stereotype of me is off-the-mark. Gosh, I hate hypocrisy.

Clearly, you don&#039;t like a certain local politician. Fine. Noted. I&#039;m not worried about this politician&#039;s methods if they are ethical, legal and serve the greater good of the community.

Again, I think proponents are using personalities to defend the Trinity Tollway. It&#039;s disappointing, and their venom is perplexing? Why is so much energy being devoted to defending this cluster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colus (may I be chummy?)</p>
<p>First, you are an excellent writer. Professional quality. In fact, I&#8217;d bet you&#8217;d be a hell of a publisher, too.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true I don&#8217;t like people who act like aristocracy, but I am very fond of, and very familiar with, finance and commerce, so your stereotype of me is off-the-mark. Gosh, I hate hypocrisy.</p>
<p>Clearly, you don&#8217;t like a certain local politician. Fine. Noted. I&#8217;m not worried about this politician&#8217;s methods if they are ethical, legal and serve the greater good of the community.</p>
<p>Again, I think proponents are using personalities to defend the Trinity Tollway. It&#8217;s disappointing, and their venom is perplexing? Why is so much energy being devoted to defending this cluster?</p>
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		<title>By: Colossus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colossus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@steak

Actually, you can ask questions whenever you like.  See how I asked them in the prior post?  That&#039;s strong evidence that I can ask them.  You don&#039;t have to live in a particular councilperson&#039;s district to ask what their proposed solution is to a problem they raise with a program that affects the entire city.  Where did you get that idea?

Regardless, (1) I live in Ms. Hunt&#039;s district, not in HP or Oak Lawn (though two houses would be nice); and (2) I&#039;m not a proponent of anything relating to the Trinity project other than consensus and progress.  Your arguments suffer from the same ad hominem fallacies you complain are directed at Ms. Hunt.  Not everyone who supports the Trinity project, or who simply questions Ms. Hunt&#039;s methods, is a Beemer-driving member of the aristocracy you so clearly detest.  Likewise, not everyone who opposes the Trinity project lives in the M Streets, rides a bicycle, and yells at people in their McMansions.  Take a break from the stereotyping and it will serve you well in making reasoned argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@steak</p>
<p>Actually, you can ask questions whenever you like.  See how I asked them in the prior post?  That&#8217;s strong evidence that I can ask them.  You don&#8217;t have to live in a particular councilperson&#8217;s district to ask what their proposed solution is to a problem they raise with a program that affects the entire city.  Where did you get that idea?</p>
<p>Regardless, (1) I live in Ms. Hunt&#8217;s district, not in HP or Oak Lawn (though two houses would be nice); and (2) I&#8217;m not a proponent of anything relating to the Trinity project other than consensus and progress.  Your arguments suffer from the same ad hominem fallacies you complain are directed at Ms. Hunt.  Not everyone who supports the Trinity project, or who simply questions Ms. Hunt&#8217;s methods, is a Beemer-driving member of the aristocracy you so clearly detest.  Likewise, not everyone who opposes the Trinity project lives in the M Streets, rides a bicycle, and yells at people in their McMansions.  Take a break from the stereotyping and it will serve you well in making reasoned argument.</p>
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		<title>By: steak-n-ale</title>
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		<dc:creator>steak-n-ale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Colussus

Nonsense. You can ask those questions IF you are in her district or IF she runs for mayor. (Tip: If you owned two houses (e.g. one in HP and one near your office on Oak Lawn) you could not do the former, but you could do the latter.)

Until then, your argument has everything to do with her personality, which is the M.O. of the parkway proponents whenever they are losing the debate. Like now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colussus</p>
<p>Nonsense. You can ask those questions IF you are in her district or IF she runs for mayor. (Tip: If you owned two houses (e.g. one in HP and one near your office on Oak Lawn) you could not do the former, but you could do the latter.)</p>
<p>Until then, your argument has everything to do with her personality, which is the M.O. of the parkway proponents whenever they are losing the debate. Like now.</p>
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		<title>By: Colossus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colossus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garbage.  The point on Hunt has nothing to do with her personality, but with her political propensity to identify flaws in others&#039; arguments instead of proposing her own solutions.  I&#039;m not saying her own ideas aren&#039;t valid.  I&#039;m saying I&#039;ve never heard her express her own ideas--she simply knocks down those she opposes.  It&#039;s that simple.  &quot;Don&#039;t come to me with a problem unless you bring a solution.&quot;  Can&#039;t we ask that of these bright minds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garbage.  The point on Hunt has nothing to do with her personality, but with her political propensity to identify flaws in others&#8217; arguments instead of proposing her own solutions.  I&#8217;m not saying her own ideas aren&#8217;t valid.  I&#8217;m saying I&#8217;ve never heard her express her own ideas&#8211;she simply knocks down those she opposes.  It&#8217;s that simple.  &#8220;Don&#8217;t come to me with a problem unless you bring a solution.&#8221;  Can&#8217;t we ask that of these bright minds?</p>
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		<title>By: steak-n-ale</title>
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		<dc:creator>steak-n-ale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Colossus

Every time someone exposes this Trinity parkway fraud, its proponents redirect the conversation to the opponents&#039; personalities. Wick tried to do it with his ham-handed posts. The DMN has long done this.

As Freaking said, &quot;nice try.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colossus</p>
<p>Every time someone exposes this Trinity parkway fraud, its proponents redirect the conversation to the opponents&#8217; personalities. Wick tried to do it with his ham-handed posts. The DMN has long done this.</p>
<p>As Freaking said, &#8220;nice try.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela is our physician for an ailing city council -- &quot;first do no harm&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela is our physician for an ailing city council &#8212; &#8220;first do no harm&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Colossus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colossus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the explanation of Hunt&#039;s ideas, Freaking.  Very enlightening.  My point was that I grow weary of Hunt&#039;s critiques, since it&#039;s always easier to break down another&#039;s ideas than it is to come up with one of your own.  I didn&#039;t mention anything about Wick Allison&#039;s stance on Trinity--I&#039;m asking Angela to provide us with a progressive plan to improve our city.

Note what this comment does not contain: an insult protected by anonymity.  There&#039;s no valid reason we can&#039;t disagree in an electronic forum without returning to the island from Lord of the Flies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the explanation of Hunt&#8217;s ideas, Freaking.  Very enlightening.  My point was that I grow weary of Hunt&#8217;s critiques, since it&#8217;s always easier to break down another&#8217;s ideas than it is to come up with one of your own.  I didn&#8217;t mention anything about Wick Allison&#8217;s stance on Trinity&#8211;I&#8217;m asking Angela to provide us with a progressive plan to improve our city.</p>
<p>Note what this comment does not contain: an insult protected by anonymity.  There&#8217;s no valid reason we can&#8217;t disagree in an electronic forum without returning to the island from Lord of the Flies.</p>
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		<title>By: Give Me A Freaking Break</title>
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		<dc:creator>Give Me A Freaking Break</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try Colossus D Head.  We have brains.
Ms Hunt is the one with the ideas.  Wick is the one is a perpetual backtracking mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try Colossus D Head.  We have brains.<br />
Ms Hunt is the one with the ideas.  Wick is the one is a perpetual backtracking mode.</p>
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		<title>By: Colossus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colossus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t quite agree with those who describe Ms. Hunt as an efficient assembly line worker who makes her colleagues look bad and causes their resentment.  An assembly line worker actually produces something other than criticism.  In general--and even leaving this Trinity debate aside--Hunt proves to be the political incarnation of Internal Affairs, overturning every stone in order to cast them at anyone who comes up with an idea.  

In my view, Hunt has proven adept only at exploiting weaknesses in her opponents&#039; ability to argue in favor of their theories--not weaknesses in the theories themselves.  More important, where are HUNT&#039;S ideas?  We cannot continue to suffer the &quot;pothole mentality&quot; of the Laura Miller era that drove major projects and opportunities away from Dallas.  Let&#039;s hear it, Angela.  What should we do to improve our city?  Give us an idea, not a perpetual critique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t quite agree with those who describe Ms. Hunt as an efficient assembly line worker who makes her colleagues look bad and causes their resentment.  An assembly line worker actually produces something other than criticism.  In general&#8211;and even leaving this Trinity debate aside&#8211;Hunt proves to be the political incarnation of Internal Affairs, overturning every stone in order to cast them at anyone who comes up with an idea.  </p>
<p>In my view, Hunt has proven adept only at exploiting weaknesses in her opponents&#8217; ability to argue in favor of their theories&#8211;not weaknesses in the theories themselves.  More important, where are HUNT&#8217;S ideas?  We cannot continue to suffer the &#8220;pothole mentality&#8221; of the Laura Miller era that drove major projects and opportunities away from Dallas.  Let&#8217;s hear it, Angela.  What should we do to improve our city?  Give us an idea, not a perpetual critique.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>troll doll - but you don&#039;t have an adam&#039;s apple. I thought you hated pseudonyms, BTW. Didn&#039;t you quit posting here? Welcome back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>troll doll &#8211; but you don&#8217;t have an adam&#8217;s apple. I thought you hated pseudonyms, BTW. Didn&#8217;t you quit posting here? Welcome back.</p>
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