Comments on: Discussion Topic: Paying to Park at DART Stations http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/ FrontBurner® has been called the best blog in Dallas (repeatedly), a snarky celebration of ignorance, and a daily conversation about Dallas among the editors of D Magazine. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:59:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ArribraMibVat http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-52462 ArribraMibVat Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:38:49 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-52462 Hello. It is test. Hello. It is test.

]]> By: Bill http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40283 Bill Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:30:14 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40283 Different Bill here, I think DART numbers are higher in 2008 but not much. DART says that rail ridership is up 14% over last June. I believe that. Last June it rained like 2 feet. Who would want to ride the rails in that? It rained all day, everyday. Overall DART numbers are skewed because they count each and every car that wanders into the Central Expressway HOV lane as ridership. Which is stupid. The Mockingbird Station lot is always 1/2 empty. Just like it was last year. Just like the "other Bill" in the comments here, I don't hold much faith in what DART says. They are masters of bending the truth. Different Bill here,

I think DART numbers are higher in 2008 but not much. DART says that rail ridership is up 14% over last June. I believe that. Last June it rained like 2 feet. Who would want to ride the rails in that? It rained all day, everyday.

Overall DART numbers are skewed because they count each and every car that wanders into the Central Expressway HOV lane as ridership. Which is stupid.

The Mockingbird Station lot is always 1/2 empty. Just like it was last year.

Just like the “other Bill” in the comments here, I don’t hold much faith in what DART says. They are masters of bending the truth.

]]> By: JD http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40266 JD Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:46:41 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40266 Pay to park is the way to go. Most large cities do that. Otherwise, all kinds of riff raff park in the free spots much to the annoyance of commuters. And if you disagree with me, well, you must be a boron! Pay to park is the way to go. Most large cities do that. Otherwise, all kinds of riff raff park in the free spots much to the annoyance of commuters. And if you disagree with me, well, you must be a boron!

]]> By: mm http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40227 mm Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:14:23 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40227 @Dallasite: I don't know which trains you ride, but I tend to believe the DART employee's number. I ride north in the morning and south in the afternoon, and I get checked on almost every trip. And it's rare when someone gets pinched for not having their tickets/credentials. @Bill: I'd like to see your stats, as well. I can't speak for buses, but the trains are a lot more full than they were two years ago. @Dallasite: I don’t know which trains you ride, but I tend to believe the DART employee’s number. I ride north in the morning and south in the afternoon, and I get checked on almost every trip. And it’s rare when someone gets pinched for not having their tickets/credentials.

@Bill: I’d like to see your stats, as well. I can’t speak for buses, but the trains are a lot more full than they were two years ago.

]]> By: Long Memory http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40211 Long Memory Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:51:21 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40211 Bill, I have to add that those figures are pre-gasoline price surge. In May, the trains were full. Since then the trains have been packed. Bill, I have to add that those figures are pre-gasoline price surge. In May, the trains were full. Since then the trains have been packed.

]]> By: mediawonk http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40202 mediawonk Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:25:40 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40202 Bill, can you cite your source on those stats? I'm no DART apologist, but anecdotal evidence and personal experience both suggest that the trains (and buses, to a lesser extent) are indeed more full than they were two years ago. And their numbers seem to back that up. Bill, can you cite your source on those stats? I’m no DART apologist, but anecdotal evidence and personal experience both suggest that the trains (and buses, to a lesser extent) are indeed more full than they were two years ago. And their numbers seem to back that up.

]]> By: Bill http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40195 Bill Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:05:13 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40195 "Gasoline prices send ridership soaring...." False. In May (last figures I've seen), DART carried less people than in May 2006. DART is an immensely successful PR agency, but when it comes to moving people they are one of the least efficient transit organizations in the world. “Gasoline prices send ridership soaring….”

False. In May (last figures I’ve seen), DART carried less people than in May 2006.

DART is an immensely successful PR agency, but when it comes to moving people they are one of the least efficient transit organizations in the world.

]]> By: Dallasite http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40176 Dallasite Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:06:01 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40176 How about if they start actually charging to ride the trains? I, laughingly, had a DART employee insist that they have a 96% compliance rate on their trains. I very politely told him that he was full of **it. Since they run their trains on the honor system, I wonder if they'll handle parking the same way... How about if they start actually charging to ride the trains? I, laughingly, had a DART employee insist that they have a 96% compliance rate on their trains. I very politely told him that he was full of **it.

Since they run their trains on the honor system, I wonder if they’ll handle parking the same way…

]]> By: Bill http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40171 Bill Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:54:32 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40171 Exurbs keep the toll roads a tollin'! Exurbs keep the toll roads a tollin’!

]]> By: Daniel http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/14/discussion-topic-paying-to-park-at-dart-stations/comment-page-1/#comment-40170 Daniel Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:52:11 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=16231#comment-40170 Exurbs = freeloaders Exurbs = freeloaders

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