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	<title>Comments on: The Future of Suburbia: A Freakonomics Forum</title>
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		<title>By: LM</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/13/the-future-of-suburbia-a-freakonomics-forum/comment-page-2/#comment-40537</link>
		<dc:creator>LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Thumbs and Sams Clubs are better in the suburbs. And there&#039;s no IKEA in Dallas. And there&#039;s only one Sprouts in Dallas. And the only outlet malls are way out there. And I know it&#039;s only shallow shopping, but things cost less in the suburbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Thumbs and Sams Clubs are better in the suburbs. And there&#8217;s no IKEA in Dallas. And there&#8217;s only one Sprouts in Dallas. And the only outlet malls are way out there. And I know it&#8217;s only shallow shopping, but things cost less in the suburbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>City vs. suburbs is a particularly silly argument for Dallas because the two are so similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City vs. suburbs is a particularly silly argument for Dallas because the two are so similar.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the new grading guidelines are to prevent dropouts. isn&#039;t that what you wanted
?

I doubt a plano person would know an ecuadoran from a brazilian. they assume everyone from south of the border is mexican. plano is the least hispanic place on the planet texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the new grading guidelines are to prevent dropouts. isn&#8217;t that what you wanted<br />
?</p>
<p>I doubt a plano person would know an ecuadoran from a brazilian. they assume everyone from south of the border is mexican. plano is the least hispanic place on the planet texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great name, Trey. Who was that guy? Gerardo? Ecuadoran, if I recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great name, Trey. Who was that guy? Gerardo? Ecuadoran, if I recall.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico Suave</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/13/the-future-of-suburbia-a-freakonomics-forum/comment-page-2/#comment-40328</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico Suave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Game, set and match to Mr. Garrison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Game, set and match to Mr. Garrison.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/08/13/the-future-of-suburbia-a-freakonomics-forum/comment-page-2/#comment-40325</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just glad I didn&#039;t grow up in a sterile corporate dormitory. You can do whatever you want to your child, it&#039;s your right as an American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad I didn&#8217;t grow up in a sterile corporate dormitory. You can do whatever you want to your child, it&#8217;s your right as an American.</p>
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		<title>By: Trey Garrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unlowered standards of DISD

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/081508dnmetdisdgrades.48e6cc22.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unlowered standards of DISD</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/081508dnmetdisdgrades.48e6cc22.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/081508dnmetdisdgrades.48e6cc22.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, suburbs offer all of the drawbacks and none of the advantages. But I agree it&#039;s a tiresome debate. I just think the school Trey&#039;s kid goes to churns out brainless automatons who use heroin in a desperate and futile attempt to excavate a morsel of humanity from the place where their soul should be, but blind and compliant consumerism is instead. That&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, suburbs offer all of the drawbacks and none of the advantages. But I agree it&#8217;s a tiresome debate. I just think the school Trey&#8217;s kid goes to churns out brainless automatons who use heroin in a desperate and futile attempt to excavate a morsel of humanity from the place where their soul should be, but blind and compliant consumerism is instead. That&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: LakeWWWooder</title>
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		<dc:creator>LakeWWWooder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trey my Lakewood levity &#039;didn&#039;t seem to reasonate&#039; with you.


I admit I lived around the corner from the well-known urban yokel, Stanley Marcus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trey my Lakewood levity &#8216;didn&#8217;t seem to reasonate&#8217; with you.</p>
<p>I admit I lived around the corner from the well-known urban yokel, Stanley Marcus.</p>
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		<title>By: Ana Moure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana Moure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“How do kids in the suburbs socialize if they don’t have their own drivers?”

&quot;Um, walk next door or down the street?&quot;

It&#039;s all about how much choice the kid would have. 

Say you want to find a girl to go out with. If any girl works, you will be equally successful in a suburbian cul-de-sac or in the Uptown Dallas. But if you are picky and want to have couple hundreds of pretty young girls to choose from within 5 minutes walk from your place - I&#039;d strongly recommend moving Uptown (or to SMU girls dorm).  

Besides, it hugely depends on the size of the plot in the suburbs, - I saw some where next door neighbor wasn&#039;t in walking distance. But say kid lives in 20-family homes cul-de-sac, and, say, each of those families has 1-2 kids. That means there are maybe 3 kids of comparable age around (when you are little, 2 years age difference is huge) - and kid without a car is doomed to spend time either alone or with those 3 kids. Meanwhile in a 150-apartments house there could be 10-20 kids to choose your best friend from - and you don&#039;t even need to cross the street. And another bunch in a house accross. Etc. 

(all of this of course would only be valid if well-to-do American families were raising their kids in the city: me, I haven&#039;t met a single kid in my big building. So, in a current state of affairs, an American kid definitely has more social opportunities in the suburbs, you are right.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“How do kids in the suburbs socialize if they don’t have their own drivers?”</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, walk next door or down the street?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about how much choice the kid would have. </p>
<p>Say you want to find a girl to go out with. If any girl works, you will be equally successful in a suburbian cul-de-sac or in the Uptown Dallas. But if you are picky and want to have couple hundreds of pretty young girls to choose from within 5 minutes walk from your place &#8211; I&#8217;d strongly recommend moving Uptown (or to SMU girls dorm).  </p>
<p>Besides, it hugely depends on the size of the plot in the suburbs, &#8211; I saw some where next door neighbor wasn&#8217;t in walking distance. But say kid lives in 20-family homes cul-de-sac, and, say, each of those families has 1-2 kids. That means there are maybe 3 kids of comparable age around (when you are little, 2 years age difference is huge) &#8211; and kid without a car is doomed to spend time either alone or with those 3 kids. Meanwhile in a 150-apartments house there could be 10-20 kids to choose your best friend from &#8211; and you don&#8217;t even need to cross the street. And another bunch in a house accross. Etc. </p>
<p>(all of this of course would only be valid if well-to-do American families were raising their kids in the city: me, I haven&#8217;t met a single kid in my big building. So, in a current state of affairs, an American kid definitely has more social opportunities in the suburbs, you are right.)</p>
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