Comments on: The “Lowest Greenville” War Zone http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/ FrontBurner® has been called the best blog in Dallas (repeatedly), a snarky celebration of ignorance, and a daily conversation about Dallas among the editors of D Magazine. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:22:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: CBS http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38089 CBS Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:03:10 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38089 Daniel: Broncos, really? that's so 90's (or was it 80's). I think you were thinking Yukons, but whatever. Frat boys are a legit demo as well. I think I will start a charity with that tagline. Daniel: Broncos, really? that’s so 90’s (or was it 80’s). I think you were thinking Yukons, but whatever. Frat boys are a legit demo as well. I think I will start a charity with that tagline.

]]> By: Daniel http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38045 Daniel Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:46:34 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38045 Let's see if I can say <i>this</i> on a family program: Imbeciles. Let’s see if I can say this on a family program: Imbeciles.

]]> By: Daniel http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38043 Daniel Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:45:30 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38043 Despite Michael and Jason's like-yikes-Scoob trepidation, and over Jessica's objections, it is precisely the grit of Lower Greenville that may prevent it from <i>becoming</i> another Snyder Plaza. It's a very cyclical place, and its latest incarnation finds it as a stomping ground for bellicose, profoundly ill-bred frat boys drinking more than they can handle and "slumming it" with sociopathic, deeply ignorant inner-city cheese dealers. The kinds of establishments that cater these idiots are here-today-gone-tomorrow by nature; just by happenstance, several of them have hit the skids at the same time. Coffeehouses, hipster boutiques, etc., would do better here than anywhere else in town -- certainly better than Deep Ellum (no offense, DM). As for Snyder Plaza, no hipster would be caught dead there. (No big fan of hipsters, but it's a very legitimate demographic.)God bless Kuby's, but they really should just rename that whole area Cotton Island. The question is whether "better than anywhere else in town" is good enough. Is that a canary I hear, or have the frat boys just stopped honking the horns of their Broncos? Despite Michael and Jason’s like-yikes-Scoob trepidation, and over Jessica’s objections, it is precisely the grit of Lower Greenville that may prevent it from becoming another Snyder Plaza. It’s a very cyclical place, and its latest incarnation finds it as a stomping ground for bellicose, profoundly ill-bred frat boys drinking more than they can handle and “slumming it” with sociopathic, deeply ignorant inner-city cheese dealers. The kinds of establishments that cater these idiots are here-today-gone-tomorrow by nature; just by happenstance, several of them have hit the skids at the same time. Coffeehouses, hipster boutiques, etc., would do better here than anywhere else in town — certainly better than Deep Ellum (no offense, DM). As for Snyder Plaza, no hipster would be caught dead there. (No big fan of hipsters, but it’s a very legitimate demographic.)God bless Kuby’s, but they really should just rename that whole area Cotton Island.

The question is whether “better than anywhere else in town” is good enough. Is that a canary I hear, or have the frat boys just stopped honking the horns of their Broncos?

]]> By: Michael Davis http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38032 Michael Davis Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:09:46 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38032 jrp, No way you can compare Arlington to Dallas. Arlington has no public transportation. I predict that people will go to the cowboys games, then go to downtown Dallas/uptown/etc to have a drink and hang out. With all of the corporate relos that are starting to jump off, all of these apartments and townhomes will be filled. Lower Greenville is a max 10 minute commute to downtown. A lot of money is made in real estate on the buy. If you bought smart you can afford some short term pain you'll ring the cash register in time. I know several people who are from other places, graduated from college and bought townhomes in this area. jrp,

No way you can compare Arlington to Dallas. Arlington has no public transportation. I predict that people will go to the cowboys games, then go to downtown Dallas/uptown/etc to have a drink and hang out.

With all of the corporate relos that are starting to jump off, all of these apartments and townhomes will be filled. Lower Greenville is a max 10 minute commute to downtown.

A lot of money is made in real estate on the buy. If you bought smart you can afford some short term pain you’ll ring the cash register in time.

I know several people who are from other places, graduated from college and bought townhomes in this area.

]]> By: jrp http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38029 jrp Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:38:46 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38029 the biggest problem, at least in my not-so-humble opinion, with businesses on the ground floor and lofts on top is who over the age of 22 wants to live above a restaurant or bar? i have no idea why someone with a family would live in that "uptown" area, but i guess some do, although i doubt many Texans want to live in high density areas. the ones that do, move to NYC, LA, D.C. etc. and that whole multi-use malarkey simply isn't feasible in today's market no matter how much real estate agents/developers want to believe it is look at the fiasco that is GloryPark in Arlington...if Mr. Hicks is having trouble finding adequate financing and tenants then that doesn't bode well for a possibly similar, albeit smaller, development on greenville the biggest problem, at least in my not-so-humble opinion, with businesses on the ground floor and lofts on top is who over the age of 22 wants to live above a restaurant or bar?

i have no idea why someone with a family would live in that “uptown” area, but i guess some do, although i doubt many Texans want to live in high density areas. the ones that do, move to NYC, LA, D.C. etc.

and that whole multi-use malarkey simply isn’t feasible in today’s market no matter how much real estate agents/developers want to believe it is

look at the fiasco that is GloryPark in Arlington…if Mr. Hicks is having trouble finding adequate financing and tenants then that doesn’t bode well for a possibly similar, albeit smaller, development on greenville

]]> By: DM http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38028 DM Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:30:31 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38028 Jason: Deep Ellum's woes have just about bottomed out. Locating our ad/production business located in the district has proven to be a great decision. With DART, new construction and large land deals happening, we intend to stay and be part of the revival. (and yes, this is kind of an ad). Jason:

Deep Ellum’s woes have just about bottomed out. Locating our ad/production business located in the district has proven to be a great decision. With DART, new construction and large land deals happening, we intend to stay and be part of the revival. (and yes, this is kind of an ad).

]]> By: E. Dallas Denizen http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38027 E. Dallas Denizen Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:24:12 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38027 "New apartment, retail complex going up on Greenville http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/072908dnbusgreenville.f71b9ae.html “New apartment, retail complex going up on Greenville http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/072908dnbusgreenville.f71b9ae.html

]]> By: Jason http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38020 Jason Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:01:38 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38020 Parking, Parking, Parking. Don't fret - this is part of the cyclical bar and restaurant business. Plus, lower Greenville is looking like Deep Ellum. Run down and dirty. Parking, Parking, Parking.

Don’t fret – this is part of the cyclical bar and restaurant business. Plus, lower Greenville is looking like Deep Ellum. Run down and dirty.

]]> By: LakeWWWooder http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38017 LakeWWWooder Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:36:57 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38017 Recruit the Andres Brothers to lease out these spaces. They are locals who have the long-term interests of the city in mind. And they are doing a great job on Henderson. I don't have any financial interest in their company - other than my Cochran Heights home has gone up 359% in value since they starting revitalizing Henderson. Recruit the Andres Brothers to lease out these spaces. They are locals who have the long-term interests of the city in mind. And they are doing a great job on Henderson.

I don’t have any financial interest in their company – other than my Cochran Heights home has gone up 359% in value since they starting revitalizing Henderson.

]]> By: billh http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/07/28/the-lowest-greenville-war-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-38010 billh Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:09:56 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/?p=15994#comment-38010 Ate at Nandina's on Lower Greenville on Saturday, wonderful meal, no problem parking. My son played at the Cavern many times. We were there until all hours, never had a single problem. Parking is a pain, but we used valet. Ate at Nandina’s on Lower Greenville on Saturday, wonderful meal, no problem parking. My son played at the Cavern many times. We were there until all hours, never had a single problem. Parking is a pain, but we used valet.

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