Our own Glenn Arbery nailed the Aristotle connection in Wall-E before Dreher did. What’s more, he also referenced The Incredibles. Who pointed this out to me? None other than Glenn Arbery. Ok, Dreher, your turn.
14 Comments to “Clear The Room: Aristotelian Slugfest”
jrp@ July 8th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
i stumbled upon Mr. Arbery’s review last week, read this: “riding an escalator should be active, not passive,” and stored that one away for a later date, as it may just be the single dumbest thing i’ve ever read/heard/seen and that’s saying something considering the circle of friends i have
Arbery and Dreher are just two in the long line of clueless baby boomer journalists wandering and around aimlessly and writing nonsensical columns here in the 21st century
mikedim@ July 8th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Another review of Wall-E…
I decline to accept the end of man. It is easy enough to say that man is immortal simply because he will endure: that when the last dingdong of doom has clanged and faded from the last worthless rock hanging tideless in the last red and dying evening, that even then there will still be one more sound: that of his puny inexhaustible voice, still talking. I refuse to accept this. I believe that man will not merely endure: he will prevail. He is immortal, not because he alone among creatures has an inexhaustible voice, but because he has a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance.
Dang, I wish I’d seen the film with Glenn. We’d have had a lot to talk about.
JRP, um, I’m 41, so I missed the Boomer generation. But if you’d like me to phone you and explain Aristotle ‘n stuff over the phone, I will be happy to. See, in my dotage, I have transcended the sneering, knee-jerk irony of my generation. Though it must be said that pose is preferable to telling people who write things you don’t understand that they’z stoopid.
Trey Garrison@ July 8th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I prefer the Randian ethos found in The Incredibles.
This conversation takes me back to my first viewing of Planet of the Apes. We were in Nam, alcohol was involved, and we all found meaning.
Did I mention alcohol and being in a war zone?
We had excuses…………
Queequeg@ July 8th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Rod and his constant condescending attitude toward the average reader are why many people dislike the Dallas Morning News.
Keep up the good work man. Soon, there will be more parakeets in Dallas that have seen your work at the bottom of their cage, than their will be DMN subscribers.
If you are trying to prove there is such a thing as being an educated conservative, then get over yourself. It’s already been done… just like sending chimps into space.
jrp@ July 8th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
i don’t think you’re stupid, i just don’t think you’re any good at your job, which, in essence, is navel gazing. a people that say transcend and soul and irony a lot scare me.
and it’s just sad to be that young and already adhere to the boomer philosophy of Me…it’s all about Me…let Me explain Aristotelian Society to you…let Me show you the French words i know…
no, Rod, it is so, you’re a crusty (not crunchy) wanna-be tyrannical old man yelling for the kids to get off your lawn
mikedime@ July 8th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
I think Aristotle said, “both excessive and defective excercise destroys the strength, while that which is proportionate both produces it and preserves it.” So I just take a couple steps and then ride the escalator up.
Glenn Arbery@ July 9th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Just riding gently upward here…
Bill M.@ July 9th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Hey, mikedim — how about citing your source? You wanna do it, or shall I?
Billusa99@ July 9th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Queequeg… Don’t you understand that calling Rod out on his obvious condescension towards others, via print, is like tilting at windmills? All you get is a hard wind back atcha, totally devoid of substance. But, it makes HIM feel good and righteous and smarter than you.
Just be like the rest of us learned folks instead and hang silently in a corner of the Old Monk one day and laugh silently at the old fart.
Bonnaroo@ July 9th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Don’t be philistine, Billusa99. Rod’s subtle intellectual insight in designating those “Crunchy Cons” he then promotes like P. T. Barnum has inspired me to establish an ideologically distinct charismatic cult following of my own, namely those that read from left to right but nod up and down slightly while doing so.
I’m still working on a catchy marketing name, but once I nail it, it’s goodbye day job, hello Oprah, Amazon.com, and Half Price Books.
mikedime@ July 9th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I believe I was quoting Line Four Guy from Why Today Doesn’t Suck. Wait, no, maybe it was from William Faulkner’s nobel prize speech.
FrontBurner® launched in March 2003, the first blog in Dallas run by a media organization. This is where the editors of D Magazine preemptively out themselves for sleeping with co-workers before anyone can blackmail them with a movie script detailing their indiscretions.
i stumbled upon Mr. Arbery’s review last week, read this: “riding an escalator should be active, not passive,” and stored that one away for a later date, as it may just be the single dumbest thing i’ve ever read/heard/seen and that’s saying something considering the circle of friends i have
Arbery and Dreher are just two in the long line of clueless baby boomer journalists wandering and around aimlessly and writing nonsensical columns here in the 21st century
Another review of Wall-E…
I decline to accept the end of man. It is easy enough to say that man is immortal simply because he will endure: that when the last dingdong of doom has clanged and faded from the last worthless rock hanging tideless in the last red and dying evening, that even then there will still be one more sound: that of his puny inexhaustible voice, still talking. I refuse to accept this. I believe that man will not merely endure: he will prevail. He is immortal, not because he alone among creatures has an inexhaustible voice, but because he has a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance.
Dang, I wish I’d seen the film with Glenn. We’d have had a lot to talk about.
JRP, um, I’m 41, so I missed the Boomer generation. But if you’d like me to phone you and explain Aristotle ‘n stuff over the phone, I will be happy to. See, in my dotage, I have transcended the sneering, knee-jerk irony of my generation. Though it must be said that pose is preferable to telling people who write things you don’t understand that they’z stoopid.
I prefer the Randian ethos found in The Incredibles.
Comment? In the end, one must admit that the Epicureanism at the heart of “Ratatouille” is rather enticing, n’est-ce pas? Bwahahaha!
This conversation takes me back to my first viewing of Planet of the Apes. We were in Nam, alcohol was involved, and we all found meaning.
Did I mention alcohol and being in a war zone?
We had excuses…………
Rod and his constant condescending attitude toward the average reader are why many people dislike the Dallas Morning News.
Keep up the good work man. Soon, there will be more parakeets in Dallas that have seen your work at the bottom of their cage, than their will be DMN subscribers.
If you are trying to prove there is such a thing as being an educated conservative, then get over yourself. It’s already been done… just like sending chimps into space.
i don’t think you’re stupid, i just don’t think you’re any good at your job, which, in essence, is navel gazing. a people that say transcend and soul and irony a lot scare me.
and it’s just sad to be that young and already adhere to the boomer philosophy of Me…it’s all about Me…let Me explain Aristotelian Society to you…let Me show you the French words i know…
no, Rod, it is so, you’re a crusty (not crunchy) wanna-be tyrannical old man yelling for the kids to get off your lawn
I think Aristotle said, “both excessive and defective excercise destroys the strength, while that which is proportionate both produces it and preserves it.” So I just take a couple steps and then ride the escalator up.
Just riding gently upward here…
Hey, mikedim — how about citing your source? You wanna do it, or shall I?
Queequeg… Don’t you understand that calling Rod out on his obvious condescension towards others, via print, is like tilting at windmills? All you get is a hard wind back atcha, totally devoid of substance. But, it makes HIM feel good and righteous and smarter than you.
Just be like the rest of us learned folks instead and hang silently in a corner of the Old Monk one day and laugh silently at the old fart.
Don’t be philistine, Billusa99. Rod’s subtle intellectual insight in designating those “Crunchy Cons” he then promotes like P. T. Barnum has inspired me to establish an ideologically distinct charismatic cult following of my own, namely those that read from left to right but nod up and down slightly while doing so.
I’m still working on a catchy marketing name, but once I nail it, it’s goodbye day job, hello Oprah, Amazon.com, and Half Price Books.
I believe I was quoting Line Four Guy from Why Today Doesn’t Suck. Wait, no, maybe it was from William Faulkner’s nobel prize speech.