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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;ll Show You My Prius If You Show Me Yours</title>
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		<title>By: Pookie The Clown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pookie The Clown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a Prius three years ago and got it real cheap, cause it&#039;s a weird goldish pewter color. Apparently, some woman wanted the light blue, but after waiting three months, she told them to stick it where the sun don&#039;t shine and signed off her deposit. Well, I was in the dealership when this happpened and had my trusty check book in hand, so I got the car and since her deposit was forfeited, they gave me that as a discount. My sister was with me and she had an old Ford with her, so we tried to get the minimum $3500 they were paying for all trade ins and guess what? Yep, They let us trade the old &#039;88 in for $3000 clams and I got my Prius at $800 off the sticker price, cause I did not finance it. I got that lady&#039;s deposit of $250 off and the big whopping $3000 off for a car I didn&#039;t even own and gave my sister $500, for later. So yes, you can buy a Prius under sticker price, you just have to show up at 8 PM on the last day of the month when someone else decides not to take the ugly color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a Prius three years ago and got it real cheap, cause it&#8217;s a weird goldish pewter color. Apparently, some woman wanted the light blue, but after waiting three months, she told them to stick it where the sun don&#8217;t shine and signed off her deposit. Well, I was in the dealership when this happpened and had my trusty check book in hand, so I got the car and since her deposit was forfeited, they gave me that as a discount. My sister was with me and she had an old Ford with her, so we tried to get the minimum $3500 they were paying for all trade ins and guess what? Yep, They let us trade the old &#8216;88 in for $3000 clams and I got my Prius at $800 off the sticker price, cause I did not finance it. I got that lady&#8217;s deposit of $250 off and the big whopping $3000 off for a car I didn&#8217;t even own and gave my sister $500, for later. So yes, you can buy a Prius under sticker price, you just have to show up at 8 PM on the last day of the month when someone else decides not to take the ugly color.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought mine two years ago, Toyota of FW. 

Paid just under the sticker price and drove the car off the lot that afternoon because I was okay with the color, features, of the car I tested. No special order needed.

Funny that the Prius is supposedly in such high demand now. I don&#039;t think the demand has really changed in two years, just the coverage of the demand.

ph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought mine two years ago, Toyota of FW. </p>
<p>Paid just under the sticker price and drove the car off the lot that afternoon because I was okay with the color, features, of the car I tested. No special order needed.</p>
<p>Funny that the Prius is supposedly in such high demand now. I don&#8217;t think the demand has really changed in two years, just the coverage of the demand.</p>
<p>ph</p>
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		<title>By: Don in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drive a CapMetro Prius in a carpool. As primary driver my monthly cost is $0.00.  I win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drive a CapMetro Prius in a carpool. As primary driver my monthly cost is $0.00.  I win.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Marie Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Marie Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While not a recent purchase, in 2004 there was a long waiting list and many priced over sticker.  

I went to Charles Maund Toyota in Austin, via phone and internet.  They sold at sticker price only.  A one way Southwest flight down and a break-in drive back was perfect.

4 years later and 4 round trips to California and back and I continue to love, love, love my Prius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not a recent purchase, in 2004 there was a long waiting list and many priced over sticker.  </p>
<p>I went to Charles Maund Toyota in Austin, via phone and internet.  They sold at sticker price only.  A one way Southwest flight down and a break-in drive back was perfect.</p>
<p>4 years later and 4 round trips to California and back and I continue to love, love, love my Prius.</p>
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		<title>By: Roscoe Purvis Coltrane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roscoe Purvis Coltrane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mining of nickel for the batteries in the Prius is more harmful to the environment than all the gas a Hummer burns. Get over it. 

Prius is not better for the environment.
Prius is better at fuel economy.
That&#039;s it...until they come out with the next generation lithium batteries.

FYI- COSTS PER MILE:
To compare, the Toyota Prius involves $3.25 per mile in energy costs over its lifetime, according to CNW, while several full-size SUVs scored lower. A Dodge Viper involves only $2.18 in energy per mile over its lifetime. The Range Rover Sport costs $2.42, and the Cadillac Escalade costs $2.75. 
For you highbrow-burners and hip-hop moguls, your Maybach tops the list at $11.58 per mile in energy costs over its estimated lifetime.

Forget the SmartCar...get a Viper Tim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mining of nickel for the batteries in the Prius is more harmful to the environment than all the gas a Hummer burns. Get over it. </p>
<p>Prius is not better for the environment.<br />
Prius is better at fuel economy.<br />
That&#8217;s it&#8230;until they come out with the next generation lithium batteries.</p>
<p>FYI- COSTS PER MILE:<br />
To compare, the Toyota Prius involves $3.25 per mile in energy costs over its lifetime, according to CNW, while several full-size SUVs scored lower. A Dodge Viper involves only $2.18 in energy per mile over its lifetime. The Range Rover Sport costs $2.42, and the Cadillac Escalade costs $2.75.<br />
For you highbrow-burners and hip-hop moguls, your Maybach tops the list at $11.58 per mile in energy costs over its estimated lifetime.</p>
<p>Forget the SmartCar&#8230;get a Viper Tim.</p>
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		<title>By: Prius70</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prius70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Prius. I like it. We put a refundable $500 deposit at the dealer at 635 and NW Hwy. Were scheduled to wait 6-9 months, but one came in after 6 weeks. 

Before we bought, Toyota of Plano (Tammy) called up and said &quot;We have a Prius. It&#039;ll be gone in an hour. Come check it out before someone else buys it.&quot; It turns out they were trying to create an auction with bids starting $2K over.

In Nashville last month, they had a $3000 &quot;market adjustment&quot; for Prius&#039;s coming in not for the waiting list.

We get 42-46 mpg. It&#039;d be better, but our trips are really short. It gets about 25mpg during the first five min while the engine is warming up.

Check what it costs to get a used Prius. Depreciation is not bad.

The Prius hedged our bets against gas too. It&#039;s fun hearing people whine about gas prices while we&#039;re mostly insulated from it.

Hopefully they&#039;ll come out with a sedan version of the Aptera Typ1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Prius. I like it. We put a refundable $500 deposit at the dealer at 635 and NW Hwy. Were scheduled to wait 6-9 months, but one came in after 6 weeks. </p>
<p>Before we bought, Toyota of Plano (Tammy) called up and said &#8220;We have a Prius. It&#8217;ll be gone in an hour. Come check it out before someone else buys it.&#8221; It turns out they were trying to create an auction with bids starting $2K over.</p>
<p>In Nashville last month, they had a $3000 &#8220;market adjustment&#8221; for Prius&#8217;s coming in not for the waiting list.</p>
<p>We get 42-46 mpg. It&#8217;d be better, but our trips are really short. It gets about 25mpg during the first five min while the engine is warming up.</p>
<p>Check what it costs to get a used Prius. Depreciation is not bad.</p>
<p>The Prius hedged our bets against gas too. It&#8217;s fun hearing people whine about gas prices while we&#8217;re mostly insulated from it.</p>
<p>Hopefully they&#8217;ll come out with a sedan version of the Aptera Typ1.</p>
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		<title>By: RAV4</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAV4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I can understand your frustration and your ignorance by your story.  I would think that someone of your supposed stature in the community would have something better to talk about than a silly visit to a dealership.  Things must be slow in Dallas these days.  I will surfice that your ignorance in your experience is also your ignorance in life.  Demand is demand and that is it.  If demand did not dictate prices then someone please tell me why we are paying $4 per gallon of gas.  Demand has been going up, will continue to go up and unitl supply is more available it will stay up.  Gas, Cars.....hummmm same difference.  Its a little thing we normal people call Supply and Demand.  Your ignorance in buying something shocks me though.  If you will believe anything anyone tells you, then I have some oceanfront property in ARIZONA to sell you.  But I guess we all should not expect anything different from you, because then again you are a journalist who can always take one thing, spin it to a completely seperate thing and make it a big deal when it isn&#039;t.  If I were Cowboy, a competitor to them and you told me that they were charging what they were charging, I would tell you whatever you wanted to hear to get you to never talk to them again......FUNNY THING IS IT WORKED!  Wow the incompetence of some people.  Grow Up Tim, Research Supply and Demand, Learn the way of Life and welcome back to reality.  You aren&#039;t anyone special because of what you do, you don&#039;t deserve any better treatment than anyone else.  And all those people that say they bought a prius a year or so ago and didn&#039;t pay over sticker for it......AN EPITHANY IS COMING WATCH IT......gas wasn&#039;t $4 a gallon then, it is now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I can understand your frustration and your ignorance by your story.  I would think that someone of your supposed stature in the community would have something better to talk about than a silly visit to a dealership.  Things must be slow in Dallas these days.  I will surfice that your ignorance in your experience is also your ignorance in life.  Demand is demand and that is it.  If demand did not dictate prices then someone please tell me why we are paying $4 per gallon of gas.  Demand has been going up, will continue to go up and unitl supply is more available it will stay up.  Gas, Cars&#8230;..hummmm same difference.  Its a little thing we normal people call Supply and Demand.  Your ignorance in buying something shocks me though.  If you will believe anything anyone tells you, then I have some oceanfront property in ARIZONA to sell you.  But I guess we all should not expect anything different from you, because then again you are a journalist who can always take one thing, spin it to a completely seperate thing and make it a big deal when it isn&#8217;t.  If I were Cowboy, a competitor to them and you told me that they were charging what they were charging, I would tell you whatever you wanted to hear to get you to never talk to them again&#8230;&#8230;FUNNY THING IS IT WORKED!  Wow the incompetence of some people.  Grow Up Tim, Research Supply and Demand, Learn the way of Life and welcome back to reality.  You aren&#8217;t anyone special because of what you do, you don&#8217;t deserve any better treatment than anyone else.  And all those people that say they bought a prius a year or so ago and didn&#8217;t pay over sticker for it&#8230;&#8230;AN EPITHANY IS COMING WATCH IT&#8230;&#8230;gas wasn&#8217;t $4 a gallon then, it is now!</p>
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		<title>By: EricF</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK...all the Prius bashing is just spin from folks who don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about.

So, it&#039;s claimed in one of the links listed that it takes more energy to *make* a Prius than a Hummer?

What stupid comparison.Let&#039;s talk about the energy it takes to DRIVE ONE.

We have a Prius and a Jeep. Every time we fill up the Prius, if we had another Jeep instead, we&#039;d have to use 26 more gallons of gas to go the same distance. (You can do you own math on how much $ that saves us...) How many gallons, and energy, are expended every time you fill up your Hummer?

The Prius surely overtakes the Hummer, energy-wise, on about the second tank of gas.

As for mpg, My wife routinely gets between 45 and 52 mpg when she drives. I get less, but I always get less from her because I have a lead foot.

As for other the claim that other kinds of high mileage cares being good options....sure, they are better than low mileage cars. And if that&#039;s all you&#039;re going on --mpg--than you can argue that Hybrids aren&#039;t much better.

The problem is that this is a reductionist argument that fails to acknowledge the true genius of Hybrid technology...

Even if you take a Hybrid and a regular car, and assume that they get the SAME mpg, THE HYBRID IS STILL BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

I have had this discussion over and over with ignorant folks who think they&#039;ve uncovered some great Hybrid-flaw just because the mpg may not be much better than some other high mileage cars.

Hybrids are still better BECAUSE OF HOW THEY BURN GAS. Yes, they USE gas, but they do not use gas when the car is idling....which cuts down on the time when a gas engine pollutes the most. Think of how often your car idles in Dallas. Gas engines are the LEAST efficient, and pollute the MOST at lows speeds. Even a car that gets MORE mpg than a Prius would still likely be WORSE for the environment, because of how it burns gas at low speeds.

These are the facts, not the spin.

Open your mind, and learn when you are being spun by simpletons and those who have everything to gain be tearing down Hybrid technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;all the Prius bashing is just spin from folks who don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s claimed in one of the links listed that it takes more energy to *make* a Prius than a Hummer?</p>
<p>What stupid comparison.Let&#8217;s talk about the energy it takes to DRIVE ONE.</p>
<p>We have a Prius and a Jeep. Every time we fill up the Prius, if we had another Jeep instead, we&#8217;d have to use 26 more gallons of gas to go the same distance. (You can do you own math on how much $ that saves us&#8230;) How many gallons, and energy, are expended every time you fill up your Hummer?</p>
<p>The Prius surely overtakes the Hummer, energy-wise, on about the second tank of gas.</p>
<p>As for mpg, My wife routinely gets between 45 and 52 mpg when she drives. I get less, but I always get less from her because I have a lead foot.</p>
<p>As for other the claim that other kinds of high mileage cares being good options&#8230;.sure, they are better than low mileage cars. And if that&#8217;s all you&#8217;re going on &#8211;mpg&#8211;than you can argue that Hybrids aren&#8217;t much better.</p>
<p>The problem is that this is a reductionist argument that fails to acknowledge the true genius of Hybrid technology&#8230;</p>
<p>Even if you take a Hybrid and a regular car, and assume that they get the SAME mpg, THE HYBRID IS STILL BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.</p>
<p>I have had this discussion over and over with ignorant folks who think they&#8217;ve uncovered some great Hybrid-flaw just because the mpg may not be much better than some other high mileage cars.</p>
<p>Hybrids are still better BECAUSE OF HOW THEY BURN GAS. Yes, they USE gas, but they do not use gas when the car is idling&#8230;.which cuts down on the time when a gas engine pollutes the most. Think of how often your car idles in Dallas. Gas engines are the LEAST efficient, and pollute the MOST at lows speeds. Even a car that gets MORE mpg than a Prius would still likely be WORSE for the environment, because of how it burns gas at low speeds.</p>
<p>These are the facts, not the spin.</p>
<p>Open your mind, and learn when you are being spun by simpletons and those who have everything to gain be tearing down Hybrid technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Roman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only sissy Americans 
go into a grocery store 
with a cloth bag. It looks like a purse!

You idiots you use the plastic bags for 
lining your trash can in the restroom.

Stupid city people. 

If you weren&#039;t so wrapped
up in your stupid eco issues, you&#039;d know this.

What a bunch of dumb-asses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only sissy Americans<br />
go into a grocery store<br />
with a cloth bag. It looks like a purse!</p>
<p>You idiots you use the plastic bags for<br />
lining your trash can in the restroom.</p>
<p>Stupid city people. </p>
<p>If you weren&#8217;t so wrapped<br />
up in your stupid eco issues, you&#8217;d know this.</p>
<p>What a bunch of dumb-asses.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallasite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallasite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me, does a Prius come with a cactus juice holder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me, does a Prius come with a cactus juice holder?</p>
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