<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Leading Off</title>
	<atom:link href="http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/</link>
	<description>FrontBurner® has been called the best blog in Dallas (repeatedly), a snarky celebration of ignorance, and a daily conversation about Dallas among the editors of D Magazine.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:01:55 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29731</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29731</guid>
		<description>(sorry for the post above this one. It was unnecessary.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(sorry for the post above this one. It was unnecessary.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29717</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 04:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29717</guid>
		<description>Already done Marty!  Thanks for addressing my post.  At least you congratulated the guy who agrees with you.

You&#039;re a champion of the common man.  Since you&#039;re convicted, make sure D publishes your idea.  Maybe you can put together a webcast of the vetting meeting (or whatever you call the get together when people discuss your story) so we can all learn something!

On to glass 5 in your honor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Already done Marty!  Thanks for addressing my post.  At least you congratulated the guy who agrees with you.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a champion of the common man.  Since you&#8217;re convicted, make sure D publishes your idea.  Maybe you can put together a webcast of the vetting meeting (or whatever you call the get together when people discuss your story) so we can all learn something!</p>
<p>On to glass 5 in your honor&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marty Cortland</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29715</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Cortland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 03:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29715</guid>
		<description>J.Paul:

That was exactly my point about the little guy.  And we do understand the real world.  It&#039;s just a different real world.

Fred:

Have another glass of wine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.Paul:</p>
<p>That was exactly my point about the little guy.  And we do understand the real world.  It&#8217;s just a different real world.</p>
<p>Fred:</p>
<p>Have another glass of wine.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29714</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 02:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29714</guid>
		<description>Thanks for your advice! After sitting and breathing and finishing my 3rd glass of wine, I&#039;m finally convinced you&#039;re serious.  I&#039;d encourage D to publish your idea but I wouldn&#039;t want to see my friend Tim suffer along with the rest (and I like you too Eric!) while Dallas laughs at you.    

I know what your theory is and I&#039;m not saying I disagree with you that valuations are not perfect.  But you&#039;re operating under the mistaken premise that because Hicks and other rich guys don&#039;t pay enough, your idea is necessarily meaningful.  You addressed nothing in my post other than your incorrect belief that lower-income neighborhoods (1) are not undervalued and (2) would not be a target for development.  Are you familiar with the square mile or so immediately south of Bluffview and west of Greenway Parks?  That&#039;s been a target for at least 30 years, but nobody has been able to package the deal.  Go about 1/2 a mile east or north from most points and the property values double.

House in your family for 3 generations?  Sorry, you should have set a higher price.  Rich neighbor who doesn&#039;t like your shrubs?  You&#039;re out too.  Rich ex-girlfriend&#039;s dad wants revenge?  Time to move.  Sorry if it&#039;s in the middle of your kids&#039; school year.

Then consider leasing issues, liens, contracts for sale, life estates...on and on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your advice! After sitting and breathing and finishing my 3rd glass of wine, I&#8217;m finally convinced you&#8217;re serious.  I&#8217;d encourage D to publish your idea but I wouldn&#8217;t want to see my friend Tim suffer along with the rest (and I like you too Eric!) while Dallas laughs at you.    </p>
<p>I know what your theory is and I&#8217;m not saying I disagree with you that valuations are not perfect.  But you&#8217;re operating under the mistaken premise that because Hicks and other rich guys don&#8217;t pay enough, your idea is necessarily meaningful.  You addressed nothing in my post other than your incorrect belief that lower-income neighborhoods (1) are not undervalued and (2) would not be a target for development.  Are you familiar with the square mile or so immediately south of Bluffview and west of Greenway Parks?  That&#8217;s been a target for at least 30 years, but nobody has been able to package the deal.  Go about 1/2 a mile east or north from most points and the property values double.</p>
<p>House in your family for 3 generations?  Sorry, you should have set a higher price.  Rich neighbor who doesn&#8217;t like your shrubs?  You&#8217;re out too.  Rich ex-girlfriend&#8217;s dad wants revenge?  Time to move.  Sorry if it&#8217;s in the middle of your kids&#8217; school year.</p>
<p>Then consider leasing issues, liens, contracts for sale, life estates&#8230;on and on.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: J.Paul</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29713</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 02:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29713</guid>
		<description>&quot;I know that the lower-income houses are not that undervalued on the tax rolls, if at all.&quot;

They are overvalued on the tax rolls, so the little guy is paying more than their fair share....you uppercrusters will never understand the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know that the lower-income houses are not that undervalued on the tax rolls, if at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>They are overvalued on the tax rolls, so the little guy is paying more than their fair share&#8230;.you uppercrusters will never understand the real world.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marty Cortland</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29711</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Cortland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29711</guid>
		<description>Fred:

Sit down.  Breathe.  The theory is that the little guy is paying more than his fair share.  If Hick&#039;s house is under-appraised by $20,000,000, then that&#039;s $500,000 in property taxes he&#039;s stiffing the county and state.  That equates to the property tax on 100 $200,000 houses.  Throw in Cuban&#039;s and all the other undervalued houses in Preston Hollow and the Park Cities (including mine), and you have a monumental shift in tax burden to the folks who can least afford it.  I know that the lower-income houses are not that undervalued on the tax rolls, if at all.  (I bought my nanny a house, remember?)  If the aggregate property value of all the residential and commercial real estate in the State was properly assessed, then the tax rate on all property could be reduced without impacting overall tax receipts.  Bottom line, the little guy would pay less tax.  And no, nobody would be out trying to buy up a bunch of low-income housing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred:</p>
<p>Sit down.  Breathe.  The theory is that the little guy is paying more than his fair share.  If Hick&#8217;s house is under-appraised by $20,000,000, then that&#8217;s $500,000 in property taxes he&#8217;s stiffing the county and state.  That equates to the property tax on 100 $200,000 houses.  Throw in Cuban&#8217;s and all the other undervalued houses in Preston Hollow and the Park Cities (including mine), and you have a monumental shift in tax burden to the folks who can least afford it.  I know that the lower-income houses are not that undervalued on the tax rolls, if at all.  (I bought my nanny a house, remember?)  If the aggregate property value of all the residential and commercial real estate in the State was properly assessed, then the tax rate on all property could be reduced without impacting overall tax receipts.  Bottom line, the little guy would pay less tax.  And no, nobody would be out trying to buy up a bunch of low-income housing.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29703</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 23:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29703</guid>
		<description>Marty, I&#039;d like to read a lot more detail, because my initial response is that this is idiotic.  What good is lowering the tax rate if we have all have to jack up the values?

Instead of Hicks having to worry about a handful of people who could afford his house, most people will have to worry about the 100,000 people who could afford theirs.

You will also displace thousands.  Every lower-income neighborhood in a good location will be wiped out either by developers buying  at the values, or by the residents&#039; inability to handle the tax burden placed on themselves  through high values assigned out of fear that their property will be taken. That&#039;s okay with me, but not a lot of people.

You guys are playing a trick on me, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty, I&#8217;d like to read a lot more detail, because my initial response is that this is idiotic.  What good is lowering the tax rate if we have all have to jack up the values?</p>
<p>Instead of Hicks having to worry about a handful of people who could afford his house, most people will have to worry about the 100,000 people who could afford theirs.</p>
<p>You will also displace thousands.  Every lower-income neighborhood in a good location will be wiped out either by developers buying  at the values, or by the residents&#8217; inability to handle the tax burden placed on themselves  through high values assigned out of fear that their property will be taken. That&#8217;s okay with me, but not a lot of people.</p>
<p>You guys are playing a trick on me, yes?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: J Paul</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29656</link>
		<dc:creator>J Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29656</guid>
		<description>Once again, I find myself in the exact opposite predicament as Tom Hicks.  I would sell my abode faster than Sandra Crenshaw running from attorneys &amp; caucus goers if I could get the DCAD appraised value.  It&#039;s crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, I find myself in the exact opposite predicament as Tom Hicks.  I would sell my abode faster than Sandra Crenshaw running from attorneys &amp; caucus goers if I could get the DCAD appraised value.  It&#8217;s crazy!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Eric Celeste</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29600</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Celeste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29600</guid>
		<description>Marty:

As we discussed, this is fascinating. You should write about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty:</p>
<p>As we discussed, this is fascinating. You should write about it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marty Cortland</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/comment-page-1/#comment-29597</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Cortland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/05/23/leading-off-225/#comment-29597</guid>
		<description>Fred:

You&#039;re actually getting the picture.  If everyone put a price on his or her house equal to the price he or she would be willing (or forced) to sell it, then the tax base for the state would go up dramatically -- allowing the state to lower the tax rates. Everyone would pay his or her true fair share.  (As Eric notes, people like Tom Hicks are getting a steeply reduced-fare ride, because his house is radically undervalued on a percentage basis relative, probably, to your house.)  It&#039;s self-policing, as you note, and the state could get out of the appraisal business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re actually getting the picture.  If everyone put a price on his or her house equal to the price he or she would be willing (or forced) to sell it, then the tax base for the state would go up dramatically &#8212; allowing the state to lower the tax rates. Everyone would pay his or her true fair share.  (As Eric notes, people like Tom Hicks are getting a steeply reduced-fare ride, because his house is radically undervalued on a percentage basis relative, probably, to your house.)  It&#8217;s self-policing, as you note, and the state could get out of the appraisal business.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Page Caching using disk (enhanced)
Database Caching 1/15 queries in 0.012 seconds using disk
Object Caching 346/349 objects using apc
Content Delivery Network via Rackspace Cloud Files: c0415030.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com

Served from: frontburner.dmagazine.com @ 2012-02-09 17:09:48 -->
