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	<title>Comments on: Two Last Comments About Rod Dreher and Woodrow</title>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/04/15/two-last-comments-about-rod-dreher-and-woodrow/comment-page-1/#comment-24620</link>
		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod &quot;Prince Of Snarkness&quot; Dreher can dish it out, but he can&#039;t take it.

I&#039;m sure that he&#039;s part of the reason, along with Michael &quot;Mugabe&quot; Landauer, why the DMN censored me by deleting all my posts going back for weeks, if not months.

It was fun reading &quot;Prince Of Snarkness&quot; vs &quot;Mugabe&quot;, AKA Lightweight vs Dead Weight.

I hope that they&#039;ve all sent out resumes, because I don&#039;t think that the DMN is long for this world.

They had just better hope that somebody&#039;s recruiting for &quot;Big Baby&quot; or &quot;Spineless Bimbo&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod &#8220;Prince Of Snarkness&#8221; Dreher can dish it out, but he can&#8217;t take it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that he&#8217;s part of the reason, along with Michael &#8220;Mugabe&#8221; Landauer, why the DMN censored me by deleting all my posts going back for weeks, if not months.</p>
<p>It was fun reading &#8220;Prince Of Snarkness&#8221; vs &#8220;Mugabe&#8221;, AKA Lightweight vs Dead Weight.</p>
<p>I hope that they&#8217;ve all sent out resumes, because I don&#8217;t think that the DMN is long for this world.</p>
<p>They had just better hope that somebody&#8217;s recruiting for &#8220;Big Baby&#8221; or &#8220;Spineless Bimbo&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m laughing my ass off that any of you nitwits might think Rod Dreher gives a flying crap about Woodrow or Dallas or anything in Texas for that matter.

He only left his beloved Brooklyn because 9/11 and the Muslims scared him so much he couldn&#039;t take New York anymore, and because his wife is from here.

So five years later he&#039;s still hiding out somewhere in East Dallas in the heart of the Great Babylon of the South spending most of his time online, won&#039;t let his family get contaminated by the local Cletuses, particularly his kids in school, phones in some slapped together throwaway piece to TDMN every week, and spends 90% of his time scratching up free lance work and posting the 10 to 12 column length pieces he puts his real effort into to his personal religion blog where he can bask in the protective adoration of his devoted readers. And of course &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/04/he-hates-me-he-really-hates-me.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
&quot;I&#039;m grateful for the exposure, and more blog hits, which means money in my pocket.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

Woodrow? Race? &#039;Getting us to talk&#039;? 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That&#039;s nothing but just that much more scrap meat to the ex-pat New York media whore sausage machine that&#039;s Rod Dreher.

His kids becoming Wildcats...?

Inviting him to a Woodrow musical...?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m laughing my ass off that any of you nitwits might think Rod Dreher gives a flying crap about Woodrow or Dallas or anything in Texas for that matter.</p>
<p>He only left his beloved Brooklyn because 9/11 and the Muslims scared him so much he couldn&#8217;t take New York anymore, and because his wife is from here.</p>
<p>So five years later he&#8217;s still hiding out somewhere in East Dallas in the heart of the Great Babylon of the South spending most of his time online, won&#8217;t let his family get contaminated by the local Cletuses, particularly his kids in school, phones in some slapped together throwaway piece to TDMN every week, and spends 90% of his time scratching up free lance work and posting the 10 to 12 column length pieces he puts his real effort into to his personal religion blog where he can bask in the protective adoration of his devoted readers. And of course <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/04/he-hates-me-he-really-hates-me.html" rel="nofollow"><br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m grateful for the exposure, and more blog hits, which means money in my pocket.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Woodrow? Race? &#8216;Getting us to talk&#8217;? </p>
<p>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p>That&#8217;s nothing but just that much more scrap meat to the ex-pat New York media whore sausage machine that&#8217;s Rod Dreher.</p>
<p>His kids becoming Wildcats&#8230;?</p>
<p>Inviting him to a Woodrow musical&#8230;?</p>
<p>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</p>
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		<title>By: Amy S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started a conversation with a young hispanic man at my neighborhood grocery, he was wearing a school spirit shirt my son also owns. He graduated last year and is attending Richland, but will be transferring to North Texas next year on a full scholarship. His brow and lip were pierced, his front teeth were gold, but he looked me in the eye and shook my hand.

Last week I met a young man who owns his own landscaping business, it turned out he attended my son&#039;s school as well. When I asked what year he graduated, he explained that his father had pulled him out to work for him (home school - just a different sort?), because he was concerned that the neighborhood gangs or a pretty senorita might cause problems. At 31, he owns his business, is married and has a 2 year old daughter. When I told him he should be sure to send his daughter to his former school, he laughed and said, &quot;No, Catholic school&quot;. Not good, not bad, just interesting.

My son&#039;s teammate last year was kicked out of his fathers/stepmother&#039;s home his junior year. His dad drove long haul and his stepmom didn&#039;t like him much. He found a family to take him in, his church offered their support, and he completed school and is attending Rice on a full scholarship.

For three years, a group of moms and I (all white) ran a cub scout troup (half white) of 16 very active boys. Many have moved away or are attending magnet schools now, but one is still with us. He&#039;s taking honors level and AP classes, is a starting lacrosse player and is one of my son&#039;s friends. He is being raised by his grandmother (in 12 years I have never seen a parent) with his younger brother and sister while she works as a housekeeper on Strait Lane.

I guess I recount these episodes to point out that you really can&#039;t know your neighbor until you get to know your neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started a conversation with a young hispanic man at my neighborhood grocery, he was wearing a school spirit shirt my son also owns. He graduated last year and is attending Richland, but will be transferring to North Texas next year on a full scholarship. His brow and lip were pierced, his front teeth were gold, but he looked me in the eye and shook my hand.</p>
<p>Last week I met a young man who owns his own landscaping business, it turned out he attended my son&#8217;s school as well. When I asked what year he graduated, he explained that his father had pulled him out to work for him (home school &#8211; just a different sort?), because he was concerned that the neighborhood gangs or a pretty senorita might cause problems. At 31, he owns his business, is married and has a 2 year old daughter. When I told him he should be sure to send his daughter to his former school, he laughed and said, &#8220;No, Catholic school&#8221;. Not good, not bad, just interesting.</p>
<p>My son&#8217;s teammate last year was kicked out of his fathers/stepmother&#8217;s home his junior year. His dad drove long haul and his stepmom didn&#8217;t like him much. He found a family to take him in, his church offered their support, and he completed school and is attending Rice on a full scholarship.</p>
<p>For three years, a group of moms and I (all white) ran a cub scout troup (half white) of 16 very active boys. Many have moved away or are attending magnet schools now, but one is still with us. He&#8217;s taking honors level and AP classes, is a starting lacrosse player and is one of my son&#8217;s friends. He is being raised by his grandmother (in 12 years I have never seen a parent) with his younger brother and sister while she works as a housekeeper on Strait Lane.</p>
<p>I guess I recount these episodes to point out that you really can&#8217;t know your neighbor until you get to know your neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: WWWildcat</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/04/15/two-last-comments-about-rod-dreher-and-woodrow/comment-page-1/#comment-24012</link>
		<dc:creator>WWWildcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Hank but Pat Benetar and Cristopher Cross aren&#039;t from Lakewood. However, Steve Miller wWw &#039;61 and Dusty Hill wWw &#039;67 are..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Hank but Pat Benetar and Cristopher Cross aren&#8217;t from Lakewood. However, Steve Miller wWw &#8216;61 and Dusty Hill wWw &#8216;67 are..</p>
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		<title>By: Louisa Meyer, Dallas ISD parent since 1993</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louisa Meyer, Dallas ISD parent since 1993</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank The Tank brings up some good information.  For more like it, read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Graduates_of_Dallas_ISD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank The Tank brings up some good information.  For more like it, read: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Graduates_of_Dallas_ISD" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Graduates_of_Dallas_ISD</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hank The Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank The Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick clarification on schools. Hexter elem does indeed feed Bryan Adams H.S. Also, Lakewood elem feeds Pat Benetar H.S. and Robert E. Lee elem feeds Christopher Cross H.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick clarification on schools. Hexter elem does indeed feed Bryan Adams H.S. Also, Lakewood elem feeds Pat Benetar H.S. and Robert E. Lee elem feeds Christopher Cross H.S.</p>
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		<title>By: WWWildcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>WWWildcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe supporting a school for 80 years would qualify us as &#039;traditionalists&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe supporting a school for 80 years would qualify us as &#8216;traditionalists&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peterk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Rod)&quot;...refuses to send his kids there even though the school has been ranked exemplary for the last three years and the principal named “Principal of the Year” for Dallas. What could be his reason?&quot;

didn&#039;t take much to find out why he and his wife favor homeschooling. He lays it out in this paragraph from an Aug 2007 column
&quot;My wife and I believe in academic rigor and the old-fashioned idea that true learning requires education in virtue, as well. Given how unfashionable that view is, how disdainful Julie and I are of the permissive mores in mainstream culture and the stories public school teachers share about how maddeningly disengaged so many parents are from the moral imagination of their children, homeschooling seemed inevitable.&quot;

and note that in the same column he is not exactly enamored of religious schools either.

&quot; We considered religious schooling, but warily. Too often, faith is often not at the core of a school&#039;s mission, but rather a deceptive veneer over an institution that actually embodies and transmits values traditionalists like us reject.&quot;
http://tinyurl.com/5u2qbm

all I can say is Rod definitely struck a nerve with his column. This is what i want a newspaper to do get folks talking

anyway enuff for today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Rod)&#8221;&#8230;refuses to send his kids there even though the school has been ranked exemplary for the last three years and the principal named “Principal of the Year” for Dallas. What could be his reason?&#8221;</p>
<p>didn&#8217;t take much to find out why he and his wife favor homeschooling. He lays it out in this paragraph from an Aug 2007 column<br />
&#8220;My wife and I believe in academic rigor and the old-fashioned idea that true learning requires education in virtue, as well. Given how unfashionable that view is, how disdainful Julie and I are of the permissive mores in mainstream culture and the stories public school teachers share about how maddeningly disengaged so many parents are from the moral imagination of their children, homeschooling seemed inevitable.&#8221;</p>
<p>and note that in the same column he is not exactly enamored of religious schools either.</p>
<p>&#8221; We considered religious schooling, but warily. Too often, faith is often not at the core of a school&#8217;s mission, but rather a deceptive veneer over an institution that actually embodies and transmits values traditionalists like us reject.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5u2qbm" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5u2qbm</a></p>
<p>all I can say is Rod definitely struck a nerve with his column. This is what i want a newspaper to do get folks talking</p>
<p>anyway enuff for today</p>
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		<title>By: Peterk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peterk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why are you depriving your kid of the Woodrow experience?&quot;

See this is what I call the reverse snobbism of the public school supporter. Parents of who send their children to private schools are always being questioned as to their motives. And underlying these questions is the attitude that if you only saw what we see at PS X you too would become a true believer

I suspect that private schools are being asked the tough questions, such as what universities do your graduates attend? What courses do you offer? How do you compare to other schools (both private and public). Besides the courses offered what else does your school do to make my child a whole person?
Could part of it be because the private schools are not constantly experimenting with the latest education fad, such as whole word reading, bilingualism, whole math and who knows what else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why are you depriving your kid of the Woodrow experience?&#8221;</p>
<p>See this is what I call the reverse snobbism of the public school supporter. Parents of who send their children to private schools are always being questioned as to their motives. And underlying these questions is the attitude that if you only saw what we see at PS X you too would become a true believer</p>
<p>I suspect that private schools are being asked the tough questions, such as what universities do your graduates attend? What courses do you offer? How do you compare to other schools (both private and public). Besides the courses offered what else does your school do to make my child a whole person?<br />
Could part of it be because the private schools are not constantly experimenting with the latest education fad, such as whole word reading, bilingualism, whole math and who knows what else?</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>billh: Hexter feeds into BA, you&#039;re right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>billh: Hexter feeds into BA, you&#8217;re right.</p>
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