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		<title>By: Wildcat Parent</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/04/13/talking-truth-to-boosterism/comment-page-1/#comment-23946</link>
		<dc:creator>Wildcat Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia:
You said parents in HP &quot;get out there and bust their buns....&quot;  Gee, that is what we do at Woodrow, yet somehow we get kicked in the teeth for it, again and again and again.  Boy, its rich that you bless nimRod for his article. I don&#039;t think you get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia:<br />
You said parents in HP &#8220;get out there and bust their buns&#8230;.&#8221;  Gee, that is what we do at Woodrow, yet somehow we get kicked in the teeth for it, again and again and again.  Boy, its rich that you bless nimRod for his article. I don&#8217;t think you get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Louisa Meyer, Dallas ISD parent since 1993</title>
		<link>http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2008/04/13/talking-truth-to-boosterism/comment-page-1/#comment-23805</link>
		<dc:creator>Louisa Meyer, Dallas ISD parent since 1993</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon, My affection for the district and strong desire for it to improve is based on going deep into the system as a parent, a school volunteer, and by serving on Dallas Achieves and other committees.  The list is long on what needs to be improved including the graduation rate you mentioned.  At the top of my list is to recruit more parents to embrace their neighborhood schools and expand community involvement on every campus as well as within the bureaucracy.  

I will also continue to rebut &#039;shallow&#039; suggestions that our hometown schools are not worth the trouble and should simply be dismantled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, My affection for the district and strong desire for it to improve is based on going deep into the system as a parent, a school volunteer, and by serving on Dallas Achieves and other committees.  The list is long on what needs to be improved including the graduation rate you mentioned.  At the top of my list is to recruit more parents to embrace their neighborhood schools and expand community involvement on every campus as well as within the bureaucracy.  </p>
<p>I will also continue to rebut &#8217;shallow&#8217; suggestions that our hometown schools are not worth the trouble and should simply be dismantled.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dubious Brother -

HPISD has 0 (zero) students who are economically disadvantaged.  0.8% of its students are Limited English Proficient.

83.9% of DISD students are economically disadvantaged and 31.2% are LEP.

I would say that these statistics have more to do with students&#039; reading abilities than whatever teaching methods are being used by each district.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dubious Brother -</p>
<p>HPISD has 0 (zero) students who are economically disadvantaged.  0.8% of its students are Limited English Proficient.</p>
<p>83.9% of DISD students are economically disadvantaged and 31.2% are LEP.</p>
<p>I would say that these statistics have more to do with students&#8217; reading abilities than whatever teaching methods are being used by each district.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Meyer:
With DISD holding 7th place in the national dropout rate (and we aren&#039;t the 7th largest city), your DISD defense seems a bit shallow. Obviously, being the largest employer does not translate to the best education provider. 

Of the 150,000 kids you cite, only a small percentage will graduate from high school.  For that matter, many will not be reading by the 8th grade.

The district doesn&#039;t need to be subdivided.  It needs to be dismantled. Large districts = more bureaucrats.

DISD is the only local operation that makes the City of Dallas look efficient.

At a Townhall meeting last night, Dr. Flores, Adam Medrano &amp; Jerome Garza did a sales job on about 30 residents.  Dr. Flores touted the scholarships some graduates are getting and the success of the magnet schools. 

A lady in the room, said &quot;That&#039;s great, but you need to come back to our real world where kids aren&#039;t graduating from high school.&quot;  Dr. Flores responded to stop worrying about high school graduation and focus on college acceptance. You know, set your standards higher - pull everybody up.

Just a bunch of baloney, and no one in the room bought it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Meyer:<br />
With DISD holding 7th place in the national dropout rate (and we aren&#8217;t the 7th largest city), your DISD defense seems a bit shallow. Obviously, being the largest employer does not translate to the best education provider. </p>
<p>Of the 150,000 kids you cite, only a small percentage will graduate from high school.  For that matter, many will not be reading by the 8th grade.</p>
<p>The district doesn&#8217;t need to be subdivided.  It needs to be dismantled. Large districts = more bureaucrats.</p>
<p>DISD is the only local operation that makes the City of Dallas look efficient.</p>
<p>At a Townhall meeting last night, Dr. Flores, Adam Medrano &amp; Jerome Garza did a sales job on about 30 residents.  Dr. Flores touted the scholarships some graduates are getting and the success of the magnet schools. </p>
<p>A lady in the room, said &#8220;That&#8217;s great, but you need to come back to our real world where kids aren&#8217;t graduating from high school.&#8221;  Dr. Flores responded to stop worrying about high school graduation and focus on college acceptance. You know, set your standards higher &#8211; pull everybody up.</p>
<p>Just a bunch of baloney, and no one in the room bought it.</p>
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		<title>By: Louisa Meyer, Dallas ISD parent since 1993</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louisa Meyer, Dallas ISD parent since 1993</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The district has already been subdivided: http://www.dallasisd.org/schools/
Major reforms, in all areas, are underway: http://www.dallasisd.org/about/dallasachieves/
Advance Placement programs are successful and open to all students: http://www.apstrategies.org/ip/apresults/APS%202006.pdf
Graduates are doing well in college admissions: http://www.wtwhitehs.org/matriculation0208.pdf
Dallas ISD is the city&#039;s largest employer, serves more than 150,000 students at 227 campuses.  Singlet stories dispensed by Brett Shipp, Rod Dreher or even Sharon Boyd may feed your biases but  don&#039;t fairly reflect the entire system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The district has already been subdivided: <a href="http://www.dallasisd.org/schools/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasisd.org/schools/</a><br />
Major reforms, in all areas, are underway: <a href="http://www.dallasisd.org/about/dallasachieves/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasisd.org/about/dallasachieves/</a><br />
Advance Placement programs are successful and open to all students: <a href="http://www.apstrategies.org/ip/apresults/APS%202006.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.apstrategies.org/ip/apresults/APS%202006.pdf</a><br />
Graduates are doing well in college admissions: <a href="http://www.wtwhitehs.org/matriculation0208.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtwhitehs.org/matriculation0208.pdf</a><br />
Dallas ISD is the city&#8217;s largest employer, serves more than 150,000 students at 227 campuses.  Singlet stories dispensed by Brett Shipp, Rod Dreher or even Sharon Boyd may feed your biases but  don&#8217;t fairly reflect the entire system.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change 5 to 6 above.

5.  Perhaps the private schools have these above average faciliites due to their enormous fundraisers they hold every year.  I was at a private school auction where a puppy sold for $27,000 and they raised over $1 million.  As an active fundraiser I applaud them, it&#039;s hard work I know.  However we don&#039;t have pockets like that, nor do we have the corporate support on a local school level.  Many corporations do support our district on a district-wide level, for scholarship help, work study, tutoring help, etc. (Thank you, thank you, thank you).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change 5 to 6 above.</p>
<p>5.  Perhaps the private schools have these above average faciliites due to their enormous fundraisers they hold every year.  I was at a private school auction where a puppy sold for $27,000 and they raised over $1 million.  As an active fundraiser I applaud them, it&#8217;s hard work I know.  However we don&#8217;t have pockets like that, nor do we have the corporate support on a local school level.  Many corporations do support our district on a district-wide level, for scholarship help, work study, tutoring help, etc. (Thank you, thank you, thank you).</p>
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		<title>By: Amy S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACP -

1.  Sure it doesn&#039;t matter how many Lynacre campuses this creates, as long as it is in someone else&#039;s district.  Why don&#039;t we take it one step farther and seperate the tax payments made by people in each mini-district?  If someone is paying big bucks on their million dollar home, why should it go to some school down in South Dallas (note tongue in cheek).

2.  DISD is not holding the audit back, the auditors are.  How can DISD release something that they have not been given.  Do you want it fast or do you want it right?

3.  When Wick refers to &quot;we&quot; and &quot;our&quot; kids that are failing (note beginning of blog above), some of us see him as an outsider to Dallas schools considering he lives in HP.  So in what reference is he referring to these kids?  Our solutions are not going to come from an HP model of success.  Not to mention that if we did raise the money to carpet our sports fields, the amount of shi* we would take for diverting those funds from educational purposes would be longer than this current blog.

4.  Nope, not that Maverick, different one (which is why I didn&#039;t say we have two Mavericks in our neighborhood), don&#039;t know if he has kids but would welcome him into our schools.

5.  Low blow, bad form, she&#039;s entitled to her choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACP -</p>
<p>1.  Sure it doesn&#8217;t matter how many Lynacre campuses this creates, as long as it is in someone else&#8217;s district.  Why don&#8217;t we take it one step farther and seperate the tax payments made by people in each mini-district?  If someone is paying big bucks on their million dollar home, why should it go to some school down in South Dallas (note tongue in cheek).</p>
<p>2.  DISD is not holding the audit back, the auditors are.  How can DISD release something that they have not been given.  Do you want it fast or do you want it right?</p>
<p>3.  When Wick refers to &#8220;we&#8221; and &#8220;our&#8221; kids that are failing (note beginning of blog above), some of us see him as an outsider to Dallas schools considering he lives in HP.  So in what reference is he referring to these kids?  Our solutions are not going to come from an HP model of success.  Not to mention that if we did raise the money to carpet our sports fields, the amount of shi* we would take for diverting those funds from educational purposes would be longer than this current blog.</p>
<p>4.  Nope, not that Maverick, different one (which is why I didn&#8217;t say we have two Mavericks in our neighborhood), don&#8217;t know if he has kids but would welcome him into our schools.</p>
<p>5.  Low blow, bad form, she&#8217;s entitled to her choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Dubious Brother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dubious Brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just Me -

I&#039;m glad that you can read just fine.

The percentage of children currently and formerly in DISD that cannot read is way too high. Whatever that number is needs to be compared to HPISD&#039;s number which is ZERO. 

We are not talking about DISD children from homes with well educated and involved parents. The school is these childrens only shot evidently and all that I am saying is that there is a system that seems to work regardless of the childs circumstance.

Something tells me that if they tried to take that system out of HPISD and replace it with one that has a 50% failure rate, the concerned parents would have something to say about it. The DISD parents deserve the same opportunity. They would have it with smaller districts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just Me -</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that you can read just fine.</p>
<p>The percentage of children currently and formerly in DISD that cannot read is way too high. Whatever that number is needs to be compared to HPISD&#8217;s number which is ZERO. </p>
<p>We are not talking about DISD children from homes with well educated and involved parents. The school is these childrens only shot evidently and all that I am saying is that there is a system that seems to work regardless of the childs circumstance.</p>
<p>Something tells me that if they tried to take that system out of HPISD and replace it with one that has a 50% failure rate, the concerned parents would have something to say about it. The DISD parents deserve the same opportunity. They would have it with smaller districts.</p>
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		<title>By: a concerned parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>a concerned parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Why can&#039;t the DISD be split up. It can be split into numerous districts at least by trustee district if not more. Why can&#039;t Woodrow and it feeders be one district. Those residents can control their destiney. Hilcrest and its feeders another one, etc...

2. VOTE NO - Until the DISD releases its audit and put forth a bond program to benefit all parts of the district and get rid of all portables VOTE NO!

3.Amy S. If you want carpets on your kids sports fields - then go out and raise the money from corporations or other individuals the same way HP does.

4. Amy S. As for the Maverick that lives in your neighborhood - if it is who I think it is, he has since moved to another neighborhood and will not send his kids to the DISD as he homes schools them.

5. I don&#039;t care what anyone says, go tour the private schools and see what they have to offer compared to the public schools such as technology, facilities, etc... 

6. The principal of Woodrow does not send her daughter to the DISD, and instead uses private school. That basically says it all for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Why can&#8217;t the DISD be split up. It can be split into numerous districts at least by trustee district if not more. Why can&#8217;t Woodrow and it feeders be one district. Those residents can control their destiney. Hilcrest and its feeders another one, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>2. VOTE NO &#8211; Until the DISD releases its audit and put forth a bond program to benefit all parts of the district and get rid of all portables VOTE NO!</p>
<p>3.Amy S. If you want carpets on your kids sports fields &#8211; then go out and raise the money from corporations or other individuals the same way HP does.</p>
<p>4. Amy S. As for the Maverick that lives in your neighborhood &#8211; if it is who I think it is, he has since moved to another neighborhood and will not send his kids to the DISD as he homes schools them.</p>
<p>5. I don&#8217;t care what anyone says, go tour the private schools and see what they have to offer compared to the public schools such as technology, facilities, etc&#8230; </p>
<p>6. The principal of Woodrow does not send her daughter to the DISD, and instead uses private school. That basically says it all for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ajjig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajjig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! This place is a regular think-tank.  All the answers for all the problems.  I had all the answers too, then I started teaching at the age of 30.  It has been my observation that for a child with a stable set of well educated, dedicated parents, the question of which &quot;reading program&quot; to implement is of minor importance.  Those kids will learn, will succeed, and will rise to the top regardless.  Their parents make sure of it.  
No amount of bond money, &quot;superior&quot; pedagogy, or before and after school programs is going to ever replace a solid home life with involved parents. 
As a DISD teacher, I pray for the suburban districts that will soon begin to see the demographic challenges we face on a daily basis.  I was once at a school where half of the students were recent arrivals from a handful of villages located in the state with lowest literacy rate in Mexico.  I worked harder, smarter, and more inspired than I ever have in my life that year.  There were small victories, tremendous disappointments, and no made-for-TV miracles.  It was a humbling experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! This place is a regular think-tank.  All the answers for all the problems.  I had all the answers too, then I started teaching at the age of 30.  It has been my observation that for a child with a stable set of well educated, dedicated parents, the question of which &#8220;reading program&#8221; to implement is of minor importance.  Those kids will learn, will succeed, and will rise to the top regardless.  Their parents make sure of it.<br />
No amount of bond money, &#8220;superior&#8221; pedagogy, or before and after school programs is going to ever replace a solid home life with involved parents.<br />
As a DISD teacher, I pray for the suburban districts that will soon begin to see the demographic challenges we face on a daily basis.  I was once at a school where half of the students were recent arrivals from a handful of villages located in the state with lowest literacy rate in Mexico.  I worked harder, smarter, and more inspired than I ever have in my life that year.  There were small victories, tremendous disappointments, and no made-for-TV miracles.  It was a humbling experience.</p>
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