Comments on: ‘Sup with the SUPs? http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/ FrontBurner® has been called the best blog in Dallas (repeatedly), a snarky celebration of ignorance, and a daily conversation about Dallas among the editors of D Magazine. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:01:55 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mike Reed http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/comment-page-1/#comment-2382 Mike Reed Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:24:15 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/#comment-2382 Yep, the appointed officials obviously looked over that part. What a sham! My Monkey Bar is closed, bring on the Starbucks. Yep, the appointed officials obviously looked over that part. What a sham! My Monkey Bar is closed, bring on the Starbucks.

]]> By: Betty Culbreath http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/comment-page-1/#comment-1771 Betty Culbreath Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:33:23 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/#comment-1771 The Deep Ellum business owners came to the city asking for the Ordinance. I was Chair of the CPC at the time. The residents of Deep Ellum did not come down to the hearing and offer any comments. When people move into a Mixed Used District it means just that mixed use and noise is a part of the uses. People who chose to move into entertainment Districts should not complain about music until 2AM most clubs are open until then. The Deep Ellum business owners came to the city asking for the Ordinance. I was Chair of the CPC at the time. The residents of Deep Ellum did not come down to the hearing and offer any comments. When people move into a Mixed Used District it means just that
mixed use and noise is a part of the uses.
People who chose to move into entertainment
Districts should not complain about music until 2AM most clubs are open until then.

]]> By: Edward Holman http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/comment-page-1/#comment-1770 Edward Holman Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:40:39 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/#comment-1770 Here’s an angle worth mentioning: “WHEREAS, while it is recognized that, in time, residential uses in the area may increase, those who choose to live in this district should expect that noise, odor, and the visual intrusions associated with those business uses will be greater than those normally associated with other residential areas. It is the expressed intent of this ordinance to preserve and protect the business uses which currently exist or have traditionally existed in this area and to this end, the provisions of this ordinance should be broadly interpreted; WHEREAS, the city council finds that it is in the public interest to establish this planned development district, to be known as the Deep Ellum/Near East Side District.” It appears that nearby property owners must assert a compelling encroachment argument OVER AND ABOVE normal noise, etc., generated by the typical bar/restaurant. Also, great care must be taken so that competitors and others not be allowed to use STRAWMEN to eliminate business activity. Maybe our elected representatives, and those on the board, should be reminded of the preamble of the adopted ordinance – PD 269. Here’s an angle worth mentioning:

“WHEREAS, while it is recognized that, in time, residential uses in the area may increase, those who choose to live in this district should expect that noise, odor, and the visual intrusions associated with those business uses will be greater than those normally associated with other residential areas. It is the expressed intent of this ordinance to preserve and protect the business uses which currently exist or have traditionally existed in this area and to this end, the provisions of this ordinance should be broadly interpreted;

WHEREAS, the city council finds that it is in the public interest to establish this planned development district, to be known as the Deep Ellum/Near East Side District.”

It appears that nearby property owners must assert a compelling encroachment argument OVER AND ABOVE normal noise, etc., generated by the typical bar/restaurant.

Also, great care must be taken so that competitors and others not be allowed to use STRAWMEN to eliminate business activity.

Maybe our elected representatives, and those on the board, should be reminded of the preamble of the adopted ordinance – PD 269.

]]> By: Michael Davis http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/comment-page-1/#comment-1682 Michael Davis Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:12:05 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/#comment-1682 Let the record show that Deep Ellum clubs went 6 for 7 with one positive-looking postponement today. Let the record show that Deep Ellum clubs went 6 for 7 with one positive-looking postponement today.

]]> By: Hunter http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/comment-page-1/#comment-1676 Hunter Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:32:23 +0000 http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2007/11/08/sup-with-the-sups/#comment-1676 We've got live updates from the meeting up on our <a href="http://nightlife.beloblog.com/" rel="nofollow">Nightlife blog</a>. We’ve got live updates from the meeting up on our Nightlife blog.

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